proven starter? marc bulger has his own injury concerns to deal with ... how about making it through an entire season without getting injured? i like bulger as much as the next guy, but he hasn't "proven" anything yet, other than the fact that he has a propensity for injury.
mikus wrote:proven starter? marc bulger has his own injury concerns to deal with ... how about making it through an entire season without getting injured? i like bulger as much as the next guy, but he hasn't "proven" anything yet, other than the fact that he has a propensity for injury.
He's put up pretty good numbers.
Right now, I'd much rather have Bulger than a running QB coming off a horrific knee injury.
I agree that this trade doesn't make a lot of sense. In my mind, right now, Bulger > Culpepper.
Bulger has been throwing up big numbrs. His shoulder injury is not serious. If you had him on your team this year, you'd remember that he kept "almost" playing towards the end of the season. It was quite frustrating. Anyway, the point is, I think if the Rams had anything to play for, Bulger would've played. Not a long-term injury problem.
Culpepper, on the other hand, basically had a grenade go off inside one of his knees. Bad knews even if he WASN'T a mobile QB...which obviously he is.
Not to mention, while I don't know Bulger's contract, Culpepper's contract is like one of the highest in QB NFL history, which would drop his value (relative to Bulger) even less.
I would think also that Bulger for Culpepper + picks would be more believable.
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Why on Earth would STL even consider this? I get the Linehan connection but come on....Nick Saban coached Matt Mauck and I don't exactly see the trading for him..
Bulger hasn't proven himself? Please. All that time he missed was a couple games prior to this season, this is the only year he's had real injury problems and he's been great when healthy.
On the other hand, not only is Cpepp coming off that huge injury, but he looked awful even before he got hurt.
Terrible terrible trade for the Rams if this is for real.
Kensat30 wrote:Cpepper for Bulger and a pick!?!? Maybe if we went back in time to preseason 2005....I know Bulger may be injury prone, but Cpepp's career might be done after that last hit for all we know. You would think that Bulger is worth Culpepper + picks right now, not the other way around.
I don't know why the Ram's would mess with what is working now anyways, unless Bulger is having problems picking up the new system.
What's working? The Rams are 14 - 18 the last two seasons. Bulger's never played a full 16 game slate (Culpepper has done it three times). Bulger's never thrown more than 22 TD's in a season(Culpepper's done it 3 times). Bulger needs time to aquaint himself with Linehan's offense (Culpepper doesn't). Culpepper clearly needs elite WR talent to compete at a high level (which QB other than Trent Green doesn't). The Rams have it. The Vikings don't. Linehan likes to throw the ball downfield. Bulger can't. C-Pepp can. Sure, Culpepper's injury is a concern. But Bulger's various aches and ailments are always a concern. There's always a certain amount of risk associated with a move like this but if C-Pepp can be 75% of what he was pre-injury...this is an upgrade over Bulger.
On the other hand the Vikes could use a model citizen, a QB who's willing to hand over the reigns to Brad Johnson for another season without rocking the (love) boat. Frankly, they need the President and CEO of the "get-along-gang" and Bulger strikes me as exactly that.
Bottom line: I would be shocked if a deal this nutty (starting QB for a....starting QB?) actually materialized. But if it did I really wouldn't be surprised if it worked out for both teams.
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Kensat30 wrote:Cpepper for Bulger and a pick!?!? Maybe if we went back in time to preseason 2005....I know Bulger may be injury prone, but Cpepp's career might be done after that last hit for all we know. You would think that Bulger is worth Culpepper + picks right now, not the other way around.
I don't know why the Ram's would mess with what is working now anyways, unless Bulger is having problems picking up the new system.
What's working? The Rams are 14 - 18 the last two seasons. Bulger's never played a full 16 game slate (Culpepper has done it three times). Bulger's never thrown more than 22 TD's in a season(Culpepper's done it 3 times). Bulger needs time to aquaint himself with Linehan's offense (Culpepper doesn't). Culpepper clearly needs elite WR talent to compete at a high level (which QB other than Trent Green doesn't). The Rams have it. The Vikings don't. Linehan likes to throw the ball downfield. Bulger can't. C-Pepp can. Sure, Culpepper's injury is a concern. But Bulger's various aches and ailments are always a concern. There's always a certain amount of risk associated with a move like this but if C-Pepp can be 75% of what he was pre-injury...this is an upgrade over Bulger.
On the other hand the Vikes could use a model citizen, a QB who's willing to hand over the reigns to Brad Johnson for another season without rocking the (love) boat. Frankly, they need the President and CEO of the "get-along-gang" and Bulger strikes me as exactly that.
Bottom line: I would be shocked if a deal this nutty (starting QB for a....starting QB?) actually materialized. But if it did I really wouldn't be surprised if it worked out for both teams.
Some good points...not sure about Bulger not being able to throw downfield though - what is that based on? When I first looked at this possible deal I didnt think it was that bad of a move by either team. If the Rams are able to somehow restructure Culpepper's contract (put in more incentives, less guaranteed $ perhaps? I dont know his contract as it is now) then maybe it could work out. If both are healthy (a big if), then I would tend to take Culpepper over Bulger (everyone has that one down year). Culpepper + Holt
I am surprised Oakland hasnt showed more interest.
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by mikus » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:30 pm 
doesn't). The Rams have it. The Vikings don't. Linehan likes to throw the ball downfield. Bulger can't. C-Pepp can. Sure, Culpepper's injury is a concern. But Bulger's various aches and ailments are always a concern. There's always a certain amount of risk associated with a move like this but if C-Pepp can be 75% of what he was pre-injury...this is an upgrade over Bulger.
