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Postby Warpigs » Sat May 13, 2006 9:49 pm

New York's School Cell Phone Ban Causes Uproar
By NAHAL TOOSI, AP


NEW YORK (May 12) - A ban on cell phones in the nation's biggest school system is creating an uproar among parents and students alike, with teenagers smuggling their phones inside their lunches and under their clothes, and grown-ups insisting they need to stay in touch with their children in case of another crisis like Sept. 11.

Parents have written angry letters and e-mails, staged rallies and news conferences, and threatened to sue. Some City Council members are introducing legislation on their behalf.

But Mayor Michael Bloomberg and schools Chancellor Joel Klein have staunchly refused to drop the ban. They insist cell phones are a distraction and are used to cheat, take inappropriate photos in bathrooms, and organize gang rendezvous. They are also a top stolen item.

Students have refused to give up their phones, saying the devices have become too vital to their daily existence and to their parents' peace of mind.

"My mother, she needs me to have the cell to call me and check up on me," said Steven Cao, 16, a sophomore who lives in Staten Island and attends Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan. He called the ban stupid.

Some parents would prefer a policy that lets students have cell phones but prohibits their use in classes.

New York's 1.1-million-student school system has banned beepers and other communication devices since the late 1980s. But schools have long used an "out-of-sight, out-of-trouble" approach. Then, late last month, city officials began sending portable metal detectors every day to a random but small set of schools to keep out weapons. And the detectors have led to the confiscation of hundreds of cell phones.

New York has one of the country's toughest policies on student cell phones, and also bans other electronic devices such as iPods.

Detroit bans cell phones, and a two-time violator will not get the phone back. Boston relied on a school-by-school approach until recently, when it changed the policy to let students have a phone, but only if it is turned off and out of sight. Los Angeles lets kids have cell phones, but they can use them only during lunch and breaks.

Kenneth Trump, president of Ohio-based National School Safety and Security Services, said his research indicates most schools ban the phones. Others require students to turn off the devices during school hours.

New York principals said the ban is tough to enforce, especially in large schools without metal detectors.

"Every kid today does carry a cell phone," said Howard Lucks, principal of New Utrecht High in Brooklyn. "The kids keep them in their backpacks, their pockets. As soon as they see an administrator or teacher, they put it away very quickly."

Elizabeth Casanola sneaks her cell phone past the metal detectors at her high school by slipping it down her pants, just below the waistband, where she knows she won't be patted down.

Even at schools with permanent metal detectors, students find ways to sneak the phones inside. Casanola sometimes smuggles her phone in in pieces, with the battery separate from the main body.

Once inside the school, another tactic is to hide the phone in a sandwich roll, according to one principal. Some students leave phones at nearby stores that charge small holding fees.

Yen Ramirez, a junior at Manhattan's Washington Irving High, said students need their phones for emergencies. The ban is a problem "because you never know what could happen."

Students insist that most classmates use their cell phones responsibly, and they brush off criticism that previous generations got along fine without them.

"It's kind of ridiculous that we think we can't survive without a cell phone when people did it for thousands of years," said Elisa Muyl, 14, a freshman at Stuyvesant High. "But now that they have this invention, we should use it."
05/12/06 16:09 EDT


Now, in my opinion, the ban is a good thing. I know that cell phones must be a HUGE distraction for school districts. I was just thinking about this the other day in terms of schools around my area (central PA) and how they should probably ban cell phones. If it is so critical that parents reach a child, they can use the land line or the cell phones can be locked up somewhere when the student comes to school and that cabinet can be unlocked in case of full-scale disaster. Part of this is the psychosis of overprotective parents.
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Postby steelerfan513 » Sat May 13, 2006 9:55 pm

the ban is stupid. its easy for these guys to say; they dont go to school, and they probably dont have kids who go to school. with rapidly changing plans that can happen before, during, and after school, phones are a necessity for many students, especially those who often make last-minute plans with friends to socialize after school. at my school, the policy is that as long as it is turned off and out of use during class, it is legal. this is a good policy that helps students and staff.

im not the most social person at my school, so i dont use my cell phone too often; but things can change in my plans, and whether it be me not being able to reach my parents or my parents not being able to reach me, im screwed.
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Postby SeaWolf » Sat May 13, 2006 10:00 pm

"It's kind of ridiculous that we think we can't survive without a cell phone when people did it for thousands of years," said Elisa Muyl, 14, a freshman at Stuyvesant High. "But now that they have this invention, we should use it."


My god your only 14. Grow up. For someone to be hooked on a cell phone at age 14 is crazy.
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Postby A2theIzzo » Sat May 13, 2006 10:02 pm

More than an emergency, you need it for planning rides after school.

Because i don't have a cell, i've noticed this in my highschool life.
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Postby WickedSmaat » Sat May 13, 2006 11:35 pm

There thinking of doing it at our college :-b One of my teachers got pissed at me for checking my voicemail on a lab day. a fricken LAB DAY. Then he gave me this lecture on how they're planning on banning them for things like that. It was a voicemail from my dad, just making sure nothing important happened. Of course nothing did but it wasn't like I was talking into it....
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Postby Warpigs » Sun May 14, 2006 6:47 am

steelerfan513 wrote:the ban is stupid. its easy for these guys to say; they dont go to school, and they probably dont have kids who go to school. with rapidly changing plans that can happen before, during, and after school, phones are a necessity for many students, especially those who often make last-minute plans with friends to socialize after school. at my school, the policy is that as long as it is turned off and out of use during class, it is legal. this is a good policy that helps students and staff.

im not the most social person at my school, so i dont use my cell phone too often; but things can change in my plans, and whether it be me not being able to reach my parents or my parents not being able to reach me, im screwed.


I have a 15-year old son in school -- and you're right in that it would be MUCH more convenient if he had a cell phone. However, whenever something major changes (like i need to pick him up after school instead of him riding the bus), then I simply call the school office and the office personnel relay the message. If he ever needs to call us to inform us of a chance in practice time, etc., the school is more than accomodating. That's how it worked in the past, and how it can continue to work.

Having cell phones also allows kids in school to become lazy in the planning ahead department. Instead of planning ahead and making sure that you have everything you need for a school day or developing plans for after school activities -- kids can wait to the last minute and simply use their cell phones to call. We all survived in the past without cell phones every waking minute -- and if people use their common sense, they can find ways to accomodate rules such as this one.
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Postby Goatwhacker » Sun May 14, 2006 7:17 am

Warpigs wrote:
Having cell phones also allows kids in school to become lazy in the planning ahead department. Instead of planning ahead and making sure that you have everything you need for a school day or developing plans for after school activities -- kids can wait to the last minute and simply use their cell phones to call. We all survived in the past without cell phones every waking minute -- and if people use their common sense, they can find ways to accomodate rules such as this one.


I have a daughter in high school and this is 100% correct, not to mention how disruptive they can be in school and elsewhere. There are way too many people who think the world comes to a stop when their cell phone rings and everyone else needs to accomodate them.
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Postby PACKman1144 » Sun May 14, 2006 9:01 am

I'm in high school it it is very helpful to have one there. In case something comes up and you need a ride from school, or to make communication with your parents that much easier. My school had them banned but put them back in place because it is stupid not to allow kids to have them. In my school they can be on your person, but they must be turned off
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun May 14, 2006 9:15 am

steelerfan513 wrote:phones are a necessity for many students, especially those who often make last-minute plans with friends to socialize after school.


This doesn't sound like a necessity.

Kids are in school to learn. Cellphones are a distraction. This goes for everything. If I'm in a meeting with work, I politely turn my phone off. I would imagine at a number of jobs, they aren't even allowed. School is to prepare kids for real life. In real life, you have to compromise.
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Postby CC » Sun May 14, 2006 9:50 am

Omaha Red Sox wrote:
steelerfan513 wrote:phones are a necessity for many students, especially those who often make last-minute plans with friends to socialize after school.


This doesn't sound like a necessity.

Kids are in school to learn. Cellphones are a distraction. This goes for everything. If I'm in a meeting with work, I politely turn my phone off. I would imagine at a number of jobs, they aren't even allowed. School is to prepare kids for real life. In real life, you have to compromise.


School is not just to learn, it's where the majority of peer-to-peer relationships are formed for kids and is the primary place that kids make friends with other kids.
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