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Postby knapplc » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:39 pm

PACKman1144 wrote:I really shouldn't of said that. And knwo its oversimplified, but no extrtemists, no 9/11, no 9/11, no war in Iraq. No extremists, no conflict for Israel to get in. No extremists, no global jihad.


The only terror minded people left are the North Koreans and if we didn't have to deal with all these punks then we could focus solely on them... If only Abraham hadn't of had an affair...


So true! So true!! But Sarah encouraged it, remember.

It's all the chicks' fault. That's what it all boils down to, you know? :-b :-]
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Postby PACKman1144 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:46 pm

knapplc wrote:
PACKman1144 wrote:I really shouldn't of said that. And knwo its oversimplified, but no extrtemists, no 9/11, no 9/11, no war in Iraq. No extremists, no conflict for Israel to get in. No extremists, no global jihad.


The only terror minded people left are the North Koreans and if we didn't have to deal with all these punks then we could focus solely on them... If only Abraham hadn't of had an affair...


So true! So true!! But Sarah encouraged it, remember.

It's all the chicks' fault. That's what it all boils down to, you know? :-b :-]


Right on bro, right on
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Postby Twisted Sister » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:47 pm

PACKman1144 wrote:I really shouldn't of said that. And knwo its oversimplified, but no extrtemists, no 9/11, no 9/11, no war in Iraq. No extremists, no conflict for Israel to get in. No extremists, no global jihad.


The only terror minded people left are the North Koreans and if we didn't have to deal with all these punks then we could focus solely on them... If only Abraham hadn't of had an affair...


If only Adam & Eve didn't eat that apple...
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Postby PACKman1144 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:51 pm

Twisted Sister wrote:
PACKman1144 wrote:I really shouldn't of said that. And knwo its oversimplified, but no extrtemists, no 9/11, no 9/11, no war in Iraq. No extremists, no conflict for Israel to get in. No extremists, no global jihad.


The only terror minded people left are the North Koreans and if we didn't have to deal with all these punks then we could focus solely on them... If only Abraham hadn't of had an affair...


If only Adam & Eve didn't eat that apple...


Eve ate it first, as knapp said: It's the woman fault
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Postby Verdun Barbarians » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:52 pm

PACK, you again tend to oversimplify everything...

PACKman1144 wrote:No extremists, no conflict for Israel to get in. No extremists, no global jihad.


The "extremeists" who fight Israel do so because Sionists expelled them of their land just over 60 years ago. Generations of Palestinians had worked their entire lives to develop this land. And one day, bang, settlers come in (heavily backed by military forces) to expell them.

So to be honest, we would have to say something like "No Sionsits, no conflict for Israel"...

PACKman1144 wrote:no 9/11, no war in Iraq.


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I'm still trying to understand this one :-C

PACKman1144 wrote:The only terror minded people left are the North Koreans


I don't think the north Korean people have to be held of anything if they live under a military dictatorship...

It's always easier when it's somebody else's fault...
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Postby Twisted Sister » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:04 pm

Maybe we should avoid the whole Israel "the country" debate... history is pretty clear on the topic and it adds nothing to the solution.

Let's focus on today, Israel exists and it's not going away. It has contracted its borders in an attempt at peace... but to no avail.

The terrorist groups only have one goal, complete destruction of the state... no compromise. In fact, the Iran President said those precise comments as well.

So given that Israel will forever be in a state of war (to varying degrees)... not much has changed in 5000 years. The question is, will this escalate to WW3 given the modern day nuclear warfare threat and dependence on fossil fuels?

At a minimum, IRAN will be attacked with air strikes in the coming years... that's a given.
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Postby maddog60 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:18 pm

No matter which side is to blame for this modern day debacle (personally I blame the Allies for giving away land that wasn't their own more than the Israelis or Arabs), one thing has been made abundantly clear over the past few decades.

The Israelis are willing to peacefully coexist, the Islamic Fundamentalists are not.

No matter which history of Palestine you believe, Israel is like America. It may not have been fairly gotten, but there is simply no way to displace that many people. Both sides have to make an agreement and figure out a way to live together. Once again, this is something the Israelis have made attempts at, and Islamic Fundamentalists refuse to accept.

Until the moderates who actually will attempt peace gain power in the Arab nations and the ability to squash the terrorist groups within their borders, the only resolution that can possibly end this conflict is all out war something I'm surprised Israel hasn't resorted to already.
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Postby Twisted Sister » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:55 am

Another dictator and nutball... only this guy is in our hemisphere.

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Hugo Chavez Arrives in Iran for Talks With Fellow U.S. Opponent Ahmedinejad

Saturday , July 29, 2006

CARACAS, Venezuela — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez arrived in Tehran Saturday on his fifth visit to the Islamic country where he will meet with his Iranian counterpart and fellow critic of the United States, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.

Chavez' two-day visit comes as Iran faces renewed international criticism for its nuclear program and as a backer of Hezbollah guerrillas, engaged in fighting with Israel since they captured to Israeli soldiers July 12.

Talks between the Venezuelan and Iranian leaders were expected to focus on bilateral issues, Iranian state television reported, but Caracas and Tehran also share common interests as members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

CountryWatch: Venezuela

Bilateral trade last year is valued at approximately US$1 billion. Iranian investment in Venezuela includes a production line for tractors and several housing projects.

Both populist presidents are famous for their anti-U.S. fiery rhetoric. Earlier this month, they met during an African Union summit, where both were received as special guests.

During the visit, Chavez is to inaugurate the new Venezuelan embassy in Tehran and meet Iranian business leaders. He will also tour Iran-Khodro, Iran's giant public sector automobile manufacturer. The leaders and top officials are expected to sign memorandums of understanding in various fields.

Iranian state television reported that Chavez was to meet Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Saturday.

On Friday, Chavez visited Qatar, also an OPEC member. Earlier this week he secured an arms agreement with Russia in Moscow that prompted the U.S. criticism.

The five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council on Friday reached a deal on a resolution that would give Iran until the end of August to suspend uranium enrichment or face the threat of economic and diplomatic sanctions.
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Postby Twisted Sister » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:37 pm

Another fine addition to the WW3 thread:

Looks like Iran is sprinting towards the bomb.

Iran could produce nuke bomb by 2009: Report
[ 3 Apr, 2007 1640hrs ISTPTI ]

NEW YORK: Iran has more than tripled its ability to produce enriched uranium in the last three months, potentially enabling the Islamic regime to develop a nuclear bomb by 2009, much sooner than previously though, a media report said on Tuesday.

Tehran has added 1,000 centrifuges which are used to separate radioactive particles from the raw material, which means the country could have enough material for a nuclear bomb by 2009, ABC Television network reported quoting sources "familiar with the dramatic upgrade."

The sources said the unexpected expansion is taking place at Iran's nuclear enrichment plant outside the city of Natanz, in a hardened facility 70 feet underground.

A spokesperson for the United Nation's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) declined to comment on the report citing the "extreme sensitivity" of the situation with Iran.

Tehran has already declared that its above-ground operations at Natanz have some 320 centrifuges.

The addition of 1,000 new centrifuges, which are not yet operational, means Iran is expanding its enrichment programme at a pace much faster than US intelligence experts had predicted, ABC said.

"If they continue at this pace, and they get the centrifuges to work and actually enrich uranium on a distinct basis, then you're looking at them having, potentially having enough highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon in 2009," David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security told the network.

Previous predictions by US intelligence had cited 2015 as the earliest date Iran could develop a nuclear weapon.
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Postby joelamosobadiah » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:24 pm

HAHA, this shouldn't be funny, but a WW3 watch thread strikes me as humorous. :-b
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