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Postby Alkaholik » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:15 pm

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mweir145 wrote:It's really too bad Roaf couldn't make this decision a bit earlier...and not right at the start of training camp.


Maybe he has a FF team and was trying to unload LJ first. }:-)


LOLOLOL :-D :-D :-D
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Postby maddog60 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:49 pm

This is what I feared. Trent Green, Eddie Kennison and Will Shields will be retiring in the next 1-2 years I believe too.
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Postby mystykoekaki » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:52 pm

Twisted Sister wrote:
mweir145 wrote:It's really too bad Roaf couldn't make this decision a bit earlier...and not right at the start of training camp.


Maybe he has a FF team and was trying to unload LJ first. }:-)


I think your on to something there!
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Postby CC » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:08 pm

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Alkaholik wrote:Either way before or after LJ has lost Vermeil, Saunders, Roaf and whoever the hell else i had LT ranked #1 in PPR and non-PPR......so i guess this now solidifies my rankings.

but this does change my TE rankings, more people will test Jordan blitzing on the outside and i'm sure Gonzo will have to stay back to block more times now that Roaf is gone.


Do you not think that if Black is having problems with pass protection, that they wouldn't have a 2-TE formation to allow Tony to go out? Or have the RB cheat to that side to help? Either way, I would think that the coaches would have a plan to help Black block and allow Gonzo to go out in pass patterns.


Well, Jason Dunn (I believe he's still with the team, right?) is really the Chief's blocking TE but he was out a lot last year with knee problems if I remember correctly.

The Gonzalez blocking theory is a great one if he's injured, otherwise I'm not sure it's going to be as big of a deal as we're theorizing right now. I'm not sure if Dunn's career has been plagued with injury or if that was just last year at the worst possible time.


I also don't think anyone else has said this yet. But Kris Wilson is also back and healthy, and he's supposedly a monster. Whats the chance that they run he and Gonzo in a 2-TE set or have one on the line and slot the other? I can see that as either Kris would take some catches or he would stay in to block.


Unless I'm mistaken, Kris Wilson is more a finesse receiving TE whereas Dunn is one of the best blocking TEs in the league.
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Postby Cover 2 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:28 pm

The KC rushing offense only avg. 4.2 yards a carry with Roaf out, not horrible, but for a guy that was looking at a possible 2000 yards 4.2 is a lot worse than 5.2(what Johnson's avg. was for the season.

You put that in with 400 carries

4.2= 1680 yards

5.2= 2080 yards

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Postby lmcjaho » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:49 pm

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Oh, and LJ's games without Roaf:

9/18 vs. Oak - 9 carries 41 yds, 1 td
9/26 vs. Den - 8 carries 13 yds, 0 tds
10/2 vs. Phi - 7 carries, 34 yds, 0 tds
11/6 vs. Oak - 22 carries, 107 yds, 2 tds, 48 yds receiving
11/13 vs. Buf - 27 carries, 132 yds, 0 tds, 46 yds receiving
11/20 vs. Hou - 36 carries, 211 yds, 2 tds, 6 yds receiving


Priest's games in that span (to balance out LJ's numbers while they were splitting carries)

9/18 vs. Oak - 19 carries, 75 yds, 1 td, 15 yds receiving
9/26 vs. Den - 14 carries, 61 yds, 0 tds, 32 yds receiving
10/2 vs. Phi - 18 carries, 84 yds, 1 td, 24 yds receiving
(Was injured for the rest of Roaf's missed games.)


Man that's just awful. What?!?! I'm still taking that anyday of the week! If you honestly think that anybody else is going to have better stats you take them. But that right there proves he doesn't need Roaf to do it.


Not to mention the original post neglected to point out how Priest+LJ in the three bad weeks still = big points... Roaf being out had less of an impact than Priest being the starter in those games...
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Postby Ironhorse75 » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:26 am

Kensat30 wrote:Without the glue holding it together (Vermeil), everything falls apart.

I still don't think you can take LJ below #2, considering SA having dual Madden/Super Bowl curses.


That just means they cancel each other out ;-D
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Postby ampant » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:41 am

I think losing Roaf may cost him 100-150 yards, but I still think he'll do a little better than last year (with 6 more starts). Honestly, the guy this probably effects more is Gonzo. I remember drafting Gonzo last year and wondering why the hell he was getting such crappy numbers. (Roaf and Dunn were out :-t )
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Postby Inukchuk » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:04 am

With all the losses to the lines of SEA and KC, LDT is looking more and more like the safest pick of the 3... Agree?
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Postby MickDaddy » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:37 am

Hmmm...SD with a new QB, line problems in KC, SA just signed a fat contract and loses Hutch....I think it's coin flippin' time.
I kept LJ this year and I'm a little less optomistic without Roaf, but I'm far from worried.
Still, I hope this is a ploy by Roaf to skip camp. ;-)

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