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Postby Doc19 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:57 pm

I am playing in a new league this year that has a setup that is a little different than I am used to, namely starting an extra QB and extra WR each week... the draft is in a week and I was trying to decide if the setup warrants a change in draft strategy (maybe reach for QB and WR earlier than I usually would ) versus sticking with the "RB wins you championships" moto... What do y'all think? Do you grab a QB or WR earlier?

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Postby Gibbs_Wagon » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:11 pm

Not sure if I'd reach for another WR earliear, but I'd definetly consider a first AND second QB much earlier than otherwise. Not sure if I have a good feel for the drafting of it though.

as always, it's important to be flexible, but maybe an order of:

rb, qb, rb, wr, qb, rb/wr, wr, wr, wr, te.

I'm assuming 10 or 12 team league here. An 8 team league you may want to wait a bit longer for the qb's. (16th qb is quite different from 24th qb.)

I think that the scoring system favors qb's a bit - it's favoring td's a bit over yardage (esp passing td's), so there's another reason to take a qb..
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Postby woodson_28 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:13 pm

w/ 6 pts for a passing TD, I would say a stud QB is worth an early rd pick. Last year, my league did 6 pts for a passing TD and I was the last to take a QB (out of 12 teams) and I took Palmer. I dominated that league, Palmer put up 450 FF pts. Whereas, SA put up 320 pts and S.Smith put up 280 pts. Stud QB yes.
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Postby Eagle Baseball » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:15 pm

I am new to fantasy football so take what I say knowing that it comes from a rookie.

To me it appears like WR might be the most valueable position. In my league for rushing I get a point for every 10 yards and a recieving point for every 15 yards and a passing point for every 25 yards. So your league values a recieving yard just as important as a rushing yard but my league it takes 1.5 recieving yards to equal one rushing yard. The passing to rushing ratio is consistant in 2.5 passing yards equal one rushing yard. I would go after some top flight recievers earlier than normal.
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Postby houstonherdfan » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:43 pm

I would go for a top QB earlier than I would take a QB normally. I just drafted in one of those leagues last week and RB's were around a little later than normal becuase everyone was taking QB's early.
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Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:56 pm

Generally, I think that a running back should still be the 1st round pick, but still take a QB earlier then usual, because waiting and taking 2 late can come back to haunt you.
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Postby onnestabe » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:03 pm

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Generally, I think that a running back should still be the 1st round pick, but still take a QB earlier then usual, because waiting and taking 2 late can come back to haunt you.


Yes, you still want to get a stud RB, but you should follow up with a couple good QBs soon thereafter. Try to get one of the top WRs if you can, but once you have your #1 WR, ignore them for awhile to make sure you have 2-3 good RBs and 2-3 good QBs. The difference between the 20th best WR and the 50th best WR is not very big.
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Postby HskrPwr13 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:23 pm

QB and RB hold the most value here. QB is most due to the fact that you get a full 6 for TDs. RB has next most value because you have to start 2, and theres only so many good ones to go around. Yes, WR, requires the most positions, but you can get 4 servicable ones, with at least one of them being fairly highly ranked. Getting value is the key. Heres what I would do:

If you can get Peyton Manning (which probably means first pick) then: QB, RB, QB/RB depending on whose available, QB/RB whichever you didnt take with the 3rd pick, then WR

After Peyton is gone: RB, QB, QB/RB depending on whose available, QB/RB whichever you didnt take with the 3rd pick, then WR

If by chance, everyone else goes WR crazy while youre picking QB and RB, if you have all the quality QBs and RBs, then you have prime trade bait.
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Postby Plindsey88 » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:21 am

I ran your scoring and roster requirements through my VBD formula, and according to my calculations, this is your VBD chart... Some of the projections here are slightly dated (a month old), like Stallworth, Branch, Edwards, and a couple others... But, in general, this is a pretty good list, and you can take the new developments into account for yourself... Anyways, I hope it helps:


Assumptions - Redraft with 10 teams...


Through 17 rounds:

1 ) L. Johnson
2 ) L. Tomlinson
3 ) S. Alexander
4 ) P. Manning
5 ) T. Barber
6 ) C. Portis
7 ) S. Jackson
8 ) T. Owens
9 ) S. Smith
10 ) L. Jordan

11 ) E. James
12 ) T. Brady
13 ) D. Davis
14 ) C. Palmer
15 ) R. Johnson
16 ) R. Brown
17 ) C. Johnson
18 ) M. Harrison
19 ) L. Fitzgerald
20 ) B. Westbrook

21 ) M. Hasselbeck
22 ) R. Moss
23 ) C. Williams (RB-TB)
24 ) D. Bledsoe
25 ) W. Dunn
26 ) M. Bulger
27 ) R. Wayne
28 ) J. Plummer
29 ) J. Delhomme
30 ) T. Holt

31 ) W. Parker
32 ) D. McNabb
33 ) D. Culpepper
34 ) D. Jackson
35 ) A. Gates
36 ) J. Jones
37 ) W. McGahee
38 ) E. Manning
39 ) R. Williams (WR-DET)
40 ) J. Walker

41 ) H. Ward
42 ) C. Chambers
43 ) D. Branch
44 ) A. Boldin
45 ) B. Edwards
46 ) J. Horn
47 ) T. Green
48 ) P. Burress
49 ) D. Driver
50 ) A. Brooks

51 ) S. Moss
52 ) L. Evans
53 ) R. Droughns
54 ) C. Taylor
55 ) D. Stallworth
56 ) B. Johnson
57 ) J. Shockey
58 ) M. Brunell
59 ) J. Lewis
60 ) M. Clayton (WR-TB)

61 ) D. Brees
62 ) M. Muhammed
63 ) J. Jurevicious
64 ) D. Foster
65 ) J. Galloway
66 ) T. Gonzalez
67 ) A. Crumpler
68 ) L. Coles
69 ) D. Mason
70 ) K. Warner

71 ) E. Wilford
72 ) D. Bennett
73 ) A. Johnson (WR-HOU)
74 ) T. Jones
75 ) K. Jones
76 ) M. Vick
77 ) LJ Smith
78 ) J. Witten
79 ) T. Heap
80 ) B. Leftwich

81 ) R. Brown (WR-PHI)
82 ) M. Clayton
83 ) A. Bryant
84 ) H. Miller
85 ) C. Cooley
86 ) TJ Houshmanzadeh
87 ) K. Robinson
88 ) E. Kennison
89 ) V. Davis
90 ) R. McMichael

91 ) R. Dayne
92 ) R. Bush
93 ) S. McNair
94 ) D. Rhodes
95 ) D. McAllister
96 ) C. Martin
97 ) B. Favre
98 ) K. Winslow II
99 ) J. Kitna
100 ) A. Green

101 ) T. Taylor
102 ) N. Burleson
103 ) A. Lelie
104 ) A. Battle
105 ) J. Stevens
106 ) B. Watson
107 ) M. Bradley
108 ) B. Volek
109 ) G. Jones
110 ) J. Addai

111 ) J. Wiggins
112 ) R. Ferguson
113 ) J. Porter
114 ) J. McCareins
115 ) G. Lewis
116 ) C. Jackson
117 ) S. Holmes
118 ) M. Jones
119 ) K. McCardell
120 ) C. Dillon

121 ) C. Simms
122 ) M. Jenkins
123 ) E. Kinney
124 ) C. Brown
125 ) R. White
126 ) D. Givens
127 ) C. Frye
128 ) B. Lloyd
129 ) B. Engram
130 ) C. Benson

131 ) M. Pollard
132 ) B. Franks
133 ) R. Smith
134 ) F. Taylor
135 ) L. White
136 ) S. Vines
137 ) A. Toomer
138 ) A. Randle-El
139 ) E. Parker
140 ) B. Stokely

141 ) D. Williams
142 ) E. Moulds
143 ) D. Carr
144 ) M. Barber
145 ) M. Anderson
146 ) L. Maroney
147 ) S. Gado
148 ) G. Jennings
149 ) S. Parker
150 ) R. Williams (WR-JAX)

151 ) K. Curtis
152 ) M. Booker
153 ) T. Bell
154 ) T. Glenn
155 ) K. Johnson
156 ) C. Pennington
157 ) M. Moore
158 ) F. Gore
159 ) P. Price
160 ) A. Smith

161 ) P. Rivers
162 ) B. Griese
163 ) I. Bruce
164 ) TJ Duckett
165 ) K. Barlow
166 ) JP Losman
167 ) K. Holcomb
168 ) V. Young
169 ) R. Grossman
170 ) M. Leinart
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Postby bklik » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:17 am

Hmmm... I Cant top that.
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