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Postby Bowie » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:18 pm

If Edge only puts up 1000+ and 7 TDs this year, I think we can all agree that would be a disappointment given where he is being drafted.
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Postby My team is injured » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:22 pm

Bowie wrote:
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Can you think of any situation last year where a stud back was on a team that had a horrid defense?


Easy, Larry Johnson...


And Johnson had one of the best o-lines in the league.

Edge finished around #5 last year (#7 in both my Yahoo leagues) and played on a team with a great o-line and a good defense. He now moves to a team with a bad o-line and a sub-par defense and everyone wonders why he is slipping to around #10 in most drafts (pick #8.0 average in Yahoo drafts)? Of course he is slipping, he was #5 and he left a great situation for a poor one.


Lamont Jordan played on a team with a subpar o-line and subpar defense and still excelled, especially in PPR leagues..

with that being said, I agree that edge should be knocked down a few spots.. it's not like he's falling to pick 20... I have him as about the 9th best RB and personally would draft holt and steve smith ahead of him but that's just my strategy this year...
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Postby Bowie » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:31 pm

I like the Jordan comparison, although Edge is more talented then Jordan. Last year Jordan finished 16th in my league (8th out of RBs) in total points. Edge can better that by a couple of places, I would think, assuming age, salary, and losing don't hurt his performance.
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Postby monkey69 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:50 pm

Poor analogy

-- Soriano doesn't need a collection of 300-lb linemen running interference at the plate to hit a home-run
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Postby Matthias » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:17 pm

monkey69 wrote:Poor analogy

-- Soriano doesn't need a collection of 300-lb linemen running interference at the plate to hit a home-run


yah. and edge doesn't have to run 12 yards instead of 10 for a first down in 'zona. also take a look at big papi's production throughout the season and compare to the last few games without manny.

the comparison is a little strained, obviously, but not entirely off-base.
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:25 pm

I took it more as a fun example than a realistic analogy. :-?
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Postby GreatestShowOnEarth » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:27 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:I took it more as a fun example than a realistic analogy. :-?


To me it sounded like an Edge owner trying to justify using an early pick.... :-b
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Postby Gold Rush » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:29 pm

Matthias wrote:
monkey69 wrote:Poor analogy

-- Soriano doesn't need a collection of 300-lb linemen running interference at the plate to hit a home-run


yah. and edge doesn't have to run 12 yards instead of 10 for a first down in 'zona. also take a look at big papi's production throughout the season and compare to the last few games without manny.

the comparison is a little strained, obviously, but not entirely off-base.


I wasn't comparing them, I'm just saying that they each move to lesser teams, have everyone agianst them, and yet both of them could produce big time (one already has)

All I'm saying is that Soriano was always a top fantasy pick, and Edge was always a top fantasy pick. Now they both slip big time in drafts because of a change of scenery, and Soriano has payed big dividends for the guys who took him late, Edge could have the same kind of impact for teams that take the "risk" on him
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Edgerrin James rushes for 1,500 yards and 10 TD's in that Cardinals offense

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Postby Bowie » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:53 pm

Gold Rush wrote:Bold Predictions:

Edgerrin James rushes for 1,500 yards and 10 TD's in that Cardinals offense


Edge rushing 2004: 1548 yards and 9 TDs
Edge rushing 2005: 1506 yards and 13 TDs

So you aren't saying that the drop-off won't be too big. You are saying that his rushing numbers will be right in line with his last two years as a Colt? We'll see, I guess.
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Postby Humpback » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:00 pm

Yeah, if he "only" goes for 1000 and 7, that would certainly be a poor season for him. I expect his rushing numbers to decrease by 200-300 yards, but I think he'll make most of that up with an additional 100 receiving yards and maybe even an extra TD or two. The Colts had 5 rushing TD's last year that weren't from Edge, I don't think Arizona will do that. I don't expect identical numbers, but only slightly lower. Time will tell...
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