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Postby footballboy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:06 pm

Everyone is high on Reggie Bush (and should be) but remember that his running mate Lendale White:

White finished his career with 3,159 yards rushing, the eighth-best total in school history behind Reggie Bush (3169, 2003-05), Mike Garrett (3314, 63-65), O.J. Simpson (3423, 1967-68), Ricky Bell (3689, 1973-76), Anthony Davis (3724, 1972-74), Marcus Allen (4810, 1978-81) and Charles White (6245, 111976-79)...His 52 rushing touchdowns broke the previous school record of 49 by Charles White. His 57 total touchdowns set a school career record and are one shy of the Pac-10 mark of 57 by Simonton...Those 57 scores also rank 12th in Division 1-A history.

The point here is not about Lendale White but how Bush and White complimented each other, making Deuce McAllister an OUTSTANDING pick in fantasy football. Think about it, Deuce will get anywhere from 15-20+ carries a game and he will get ALL goal line carries. Bush's outside running & pass catching will open up the inside for Deuce when both backs are on the field at the same time. Deuce is 28 yrs old and looks fully recovered from his torn ACL. Bush hasn't carried over 200 times in a season - another plus for Deuce. I don't know about everyone else but I snagged Deuce as my 3rd RB (we start 3), having him rated as the 19 best RB and getting him as a 4th round steal (note that a rushing TD in our league is worth twice as much as a receiving one so RB's are at a premium and go FAST).

I love having Deuce as my 3rd RB - and he will put up many point for your fantasy teams. ;-D

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Postby andus » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:15 pm

I agree that Deuce is a better fantasy play than Bush, but USC history has nothing to do with it. You can't run up 200 rushing yards on an NFL defense like you can in college.
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Postby footballboy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:24 pm

andus wrote:I agree that Deuce is a better fantasy play than Bush, but USC history has nothing to do with it. You can't run up 200 rushing yards on an NFL defense like you can in college.

The point here is not to compare collage to pro - we all know that is ludicrous - but to show that Bush on the field with Deuce will not take from his play but enhance it.
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Postby 9er Fan » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:32 pm

I have to disagree. I think Deuce will be little more than a BYE week fill in this year, especially with Bush on the team. I do think he will probably emerge as the goal line back, but highly doubt he is fully recovered from his ACL tear.

Every time a player is coming back from major injury, the team says they can't tell the difference/he is fully recovered, but it's pretty much always wishful thinking.

That said, in a TD-heavy, 10-team league that starts 3 RBs, Deuce is a pretty damn good 3rd RB.
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Postby onnestabe » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:41 pm

footballboy wrote:
andus wrote:I agree that Deuce is a better fantasy play than Bush, but USC history has nothing to do with it. You can't run up 200 rushing yards on an NFL defense like you can in college.

The point here is not to compare collage to pro - we all know that is ludicrous - but to show that Bush on the field with Deuce will not take from his play but enhance it.


At what point in your original post do you show us this to be true?

You are talking about career rushing stats at USC, but how do the stats you gave illustrate the fact that Deuce and Bush will complement each other?

Bush and White's rushing stats were not just a function of being teammates. Those numbers probably had a lot to do with the level of competition they faced and the quality of the players around them. I don't think their rankings on the USC rushing list tell us anything about how Bush's presence will affect Deuce.
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Postby bklik » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:58 pm

footballboy wrote:
andus wrote:I agree that Deuce is a better fantasy play than Bush, but USC history has nothing to do with it. You can't run up 200 rushing yards on an NFL defense like you can in college.

The point here is not to compare collage to pro - we all know that is ludicrous - but to show that Bush on the field with Deuce will not take from his play but enhance it.


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Postby footballboy » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:58 pm

bklik wrote:How does a RBBC make a once stand-alone rb better?

Perhaps I've not approached this properly with the point I'd like to make regarding the Lendale White reference and I apologize. The bottom line of what I'm thinking is it appears alot of people are afraid of drafting Deuce with the presence of Bush and I feel he will be productive in relationship as to where he is going in fantasy drafts based on the points I made in my original post -

Deuce will get anywhere from 15-20+ carries a game and he will get ALL goal line carries. Bush's outside running & pass catching will open up the inside for Deuce when both backs are on the field at the same time. Deuce is 28 yrs old and looks recovered from his torn ACL. Bush hasn't carried over 200 times in a season, etc.

Bottom line - I see Deuce having good value and should not be overlooked as a 3rd back for your team.
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Postby BALCOBOMBER » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:07 pm

I don't know about your rationale. I see the Saints being behind early in games and taking Deuce out of the action whereas Bush will still be used in the passing game.

I would much rather have Bush than McAllister and if I did have McAllister I would only want him as a bye week filler.
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Postby mikus » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:14 pm

Deuce has outperformed Bush in preseason. IMO, he's back. He'll get the bulk of the work this season, and Reggie will see some time at WR.
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Postby footballboy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:36 pm

mikus wrote:Deuce has outperformed Bush in preseason. IMO, he's back. He'll get the bulk of the work this season, and Reggie will see some time at WR.

So we are thinking Thunder & Lighting, right? These two will enhance each other as teams will be so concerned with Reggie that the Deuce will be getting loose - I like it!
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