As long as Vick is starting, no player has to worry about being the worst QB in the league
[b]QB's [/b] E. MANNING / KITNA / CUTLER
[b]RBs[/b] R BROWN / WESTBROOK (R BUSH / MCGAHEE / L BETTS / D WILLIAMS )
[b]WRs[/b] ROY WILLIAMS / T OWENS / A JOHNSON / BERRIAN
[b]TE[/b] WITTEN / WATSON
[b]K[/b] GRAHAM
[b]DT[/b] PANTHERS
WickedSmaat wrote:I think it's funny that you'd take those QBs over Favre. Have you seen Brooks play, or even JP Losman?
Even funnier is 'even Jake Plummer'.
Now Jake Plummer isn't great, but the implication there is that Plummer is thus the second worst starting QB in the league. Plus Bledsoe is on that list too.
WickedSmaat wrote:I think it's funny that you'd take those QBs over Favre. Have you seen Brooks play, or even JP Losman?
Even funnier is 'even Jake Plummer'.
Now Jake Plummer isn't great, but the implication there is that Plummer is thus the second worst starting QB in the league. Plus Bledsoe is on that list too.
So I say to that...
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Reading Comprehension, for the win.
He's talking about JP Losman, if you would have read a bit further than "JP" you'd know that.
I tried looking through the rest of the thread and nobody here is saying Jake Plummer is the 2nd worst QB in the league.
Why don't you go dig up an old Favre bashing thread . We get it, a lot of people hate brett, cool. I hate a lot of things in football, but do I go and make a post about every one of them? " OMG THE JETZ R THE WOORST TEAM IN FOOOTBALL BECUZ THEY USE RBBC!!!~~!~11!"
Some people have a remarkable ability to allow their emotional disfavor of a player to cloud logical thinking...
1. I don't know if you were talking fantasy or just football in general. Fantasy wise, even in leagues that subtract for INTs, Favre was a top 10 QB last year (for the season...just outside the top 10 for per game stats - remember he always starts 16 games which is something few other QBs will give you)
2. As an NFL player, he simply plays for the worst team in the league. His good days was to make things happen and let good players make good plays. Now he doesn't have any good players on his team, so bad things usually happen. He hasn't changed - only the team doesn't make the plays those 90's teams made for him.
3. He still has one of the strongest arms in football. It is not his physical skills that are diminishing. It is his decision making that has really sucked the last couple years, and I blame that on coaching more than on Favre.
4. Do you realize that without Favre, the Packers may have gone 1-15 last year? Aside from the New Orleans game, every victory came on Favre's arm. He has to try to win every single game virtually on his own - his defense sucks. He's not like Orton where he can throw for 80 yards and still win the game. He's got to put up 3 or 4 TDs just to have a chance.
So if you want to say the Packers suck, I'll agree whole-heartedly. I mean, look at this team. They have the most cap room in the league and they couldn't resign their kicker? They hired the offensive coordinator for San Francisco - an offense ranked 32nd in every meaningful offensive category - as their head coach? But to say Favre is the problem, either for the Packers or for your fantasy team, I beg to differ.
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by Guru13 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:25 pm 
