dgan wrote:This is so simple, I don't know what the big deal is. Everyone puts different values on different players. Why don't you veto bad draft picks? If someone selects Jake Plummer in the second round, why not veto that and make them pick again?
There really should be a, "Veto" sticky because all the same arguments get rolled out each time and I have to make all the same corrections each time.
You don't veto draft picks because someone drafting like an idiot doesn't favor any one team over the others. It doesn't create league imbalance. It just means that you have one team that sucks. All you've basically done is turned your 12-team league into an 11-teamer. Whereas if someone drafts reasonably well, and then trades their first round draft pick for someone else's normal 8th rounder, one team now has received two first round picks. That affects league balance in a way that a bad drafter does not.
Kilroy1872 wrote:Trades involving collusion usually aren't very hard to spot. (Example, 2 Years ago an owner in my $$ League traded Willis McGahee to a buddy's team who had a better record...For a Kicker.)
That's more than collusion. That's collusion amongst idiots. What about Tomlinson for Brian Westbrook? Or Larry Fitzgerald and Steven Jackson for Antonio Bryant and Laurence Maroney (in a non-keeper)? All you're basically saying is they have to make it not to awfully terrible that you can find some way to justify it. And incidentally, last year on here I did a poll if people believed that, pre-draft, someone should veto a trade of the first 4 rounds of their draft picks for someone else's picks in rounds 5-8. And overwhelmingly, the Cafe voted not to veto. Not to veto a trade that made 0 sense.
People can yap yap yap all they want about it's their team, don't mess with it, yadda, yadda, yadda. But in my league, it's their team in my league. They can run their team however they like subject to me making sure my league is run how I like it. And as I've said above, I've never vetoed a trade as commissioner. But I would if I saw some nonsense going on. Especially if it involved a rookie owner.