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Postby yoda83 » Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:06 pm

look at all the hype urlacher gets, his #1 selling jersey, his name in the discussion of best LB in the nfl. at this point, he's (usually) an above-average LB, but he too, gets all the love. because he's white. if he was black, he wouldnt get all that praise. but rush didnt have too much to say about that.

and this great white hype phenomenon isnt just peculiar to football. it's in other sports and areas of entertainment as well(music comes to mind).
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Postby Cambodian » Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:06 pm

How can you say Urlacher is overrated? He had the most solo tackles in the league!! I think he is underrated if anything. This guy plays game in, game out. If you ever watch him play...he's involved in every play if it's somewhere in the short field. Obviously he won't be involved in a 25 yard pass...but what LB is really? This black/white talk is so stupid!! We're all created by God the same. As far as Urlacher not being mentioned if he was can the leading tackler NOT be mentioned?!
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Postby big shot » Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:29 pm

urlacher overrated ARE YOU NUTS hes the bears whole defense. his jersey is the number one seller because the bears have alot of fans and people respect him because he plays hard and doesnt complain and run his mouth like ohter players.
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Postby Free Bagel » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:14 pm

deftdelivery wrote:I think the whole issue is just downright retarted. Of course we know Rush is wrong becaues McNabb is a great QB who plays through injuries, sickness, and visits the pro bowl. Rush's assumption of the Eagle's defense being the main reason the Eagles won is preposterous.

Just look at Mike Vick! All year last year, commentators spoke of how stifling the Falcons D was. How it shut out the Panthers two games of the season! The Panthers...aren't they the team that started RODNEY PEETE AND LAMAR SMITH LAST YEAR?!?!
Yes. The Falcons success is due at least 85% of Vick...the overall team's success and Defensive "dominance" has been severely lacking with Vick gone.

Limbauh, learn about the NFL before you throw out your weak ass comments without having any knowledge of it.

But the same situation happened with Mcnabb last year. And when Mcnabb went down, the team didn't fade like Atlanta has. They kept on winning, even with their 3rd string QB in there.

I had philly's D in fantasy last year, and with the amount of sacks, turnovers, and defensive TD's they were getting, it would be hard to lose as qb of that team.
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Postby Plindsey88 » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:32 pm

lifeform wrote:I was pretty young when Doug Williams won, but as I recall, he was more of a traditional pocket passer.

Yep.... Sure was... Timmy Smith did all the running in that game...

BUT Do not forget to include Elway (the other QB in that Superbowl) in your list of scrambling QB's with a ring.....

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Postby thrillho » Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:32 pm

Um, I know this thread has changed directions but Urlacher had 214 tackles last year (159 solo). That's pretty good.

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What really pisses me off, where I think racism rears it's ugly head most often and most brutally is in the punting category.
Did Reggie Roby teach us nothing?!?!?
Look at any position in the NFL, you'll see a kind mix of color.
Hell, Travis Jervey had a job at one time didn't he?!
But the punter is the most historically white position I can think of!
Why doesn't the NFL force teams to try out a black punter before signing a white punter?
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Postby zombiez » Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:02 pm

Elway a scrambler????he ran if neded but I wouldn't quite call him a scrambling QB
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Postby arrbez » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:07 pm

mtarail wrote:Agreed. A clean cut white guy who can play is an easy sell. Take Jason Williams (not the ex power forward that shoots his limo driver but the white point guard). You'd have to be naive to think that 2 years ago, when the hype was at its peak, Williams jersey was the biggest seller in the NBA.

Although there was some novelty to seeing a white basketball player who was more than a big lumbering center or a 3 point specialist, most of Jason William's popularity came from the fact that he made some of the most exciting plays on the court. He's inconsistant and makes stupid plays, but for better or worse, he's always highlight material. I can't verify this, but i'm fairly certain Steve Nash isn't the #1 seller now, even though he's a talented white point guard on an exciting team like williams was...
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Postby The Simp' son » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:13 pm

i dont understand what you would ever have against the guy. He has done absolutly nothing but state his opinion. Racist comments, i think not. Only to the liberal media of this world :-t who thinks that every republican ;-D has the wrong opinion.
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Postby footballin' storm » Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:27 am

I remember when Doug Williams won the super bowl. Before that time everyone had the opinion that a black quarterback didn't have the proper make-up to lead an NFL team. That is one of the main reasons Warren Moon played in canada before coming to the NFL. How stupid does that kind of thinking seem now? There are good and bad running quarterbacks black or white. Race should be takien out of the disscussion and just focus on what kind of player they are.
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