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Are you a believer in the "Madden Curse"?

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Postby Suicide_Kings » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:59 pm

Assuming SA comes back in four weeks, he'll end the season with stats much lower for obvious reasons. So, yeah, while he won't be lost forever the fact that he even missed four games will hit his numbers hard (hence the belief by some that the curse is real.) This guy was at the top of the mountain last year - anything less is just reality.
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Postby Kilroy » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:40 am

OK, let me get this straight....

1.) Barry Sanders retired....Curse

2.) Eddie George had the best year of his career but bobbled one pass and got hurt the year after...Curse

3.) Ray Lewis missed one game and didn't have an INT and his team missed the playoffs (completely his fault)...Curse

That's just ignorant, The Madden Curse has become a self-perpetuating Urban Myth if for no other reason than people keep coming up with a reason, any reason, to perpetuate it.

SA's injury couldn't just be a "fluke", the first major injury of a player's career in a sport in which injuries are less the exception than the norm. And it certainly can't be due in part to the 370 Carries that Alexander had in '05, or the 353 he had the year before.

No, it must be a curse from a video game.
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Postby flotsamnjetsam » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:29 am

Definitely NOT a believer. I'm a believer in coincidences. Getting your image put on the cover of a video game has nothing to do with getting injured. Injuries happen all the time in football and it's just a coincidence that the last bunch of players on the Madden cover got injured that year. Nothing more, nothing less. It's almost as big of a joke as the "SI Cover Jinx". Jordan was on the cover more than anyone. How'd that work out for him? Tiger is on the cover of SI all the time. Last I checked he's been doing pretty good for 10 years. There's no such thing as the "Madden Curse". It's just a bunch of coincidences in a sport where players have a VERY high probability of getting injured.
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Postby wickerkat » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:38 am

you could also say there is no curse on the kennedy family - and that may be more of a political conspiracy then voodoo, but something seems to be going on

as i said, part of the curse is the LOGICAL conclusion that after a year in which you have 370 carries you are banged up, and due for an injury - it is just stress on your body

if the more scientific fact was that the madden cover stud typically can't repeat after a career year, and his body is beaten up and due for an injury, wouldn't you consider that a "warning sign" to possibly avoid that person? look at manning after his record breaking year - ended up good, but started off really bad and cost many people a playoff spot due to a bad start

you don't have to believe the voodoo of it all, but there is SOMETHING to it that most likely has a reasonable explanation, as it has been stated here many times

as far as eddie george (2001):
The 2001 cover of Madden NFL featured Tennessee Titans running back Eddie George, who the previous year had led his team to the Super Bowl (where they came up just short against the St. Louis Rams). Although George enjoyed his best season ever (in terms of yards gained rushing and touchdowns scored) in 2000, he bobbled a pass (that was subsequently intercepted and returned for a touchdown) in the Titans' season-ending Divisional Playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens, and the following season, hampered by injuries, he saw his rushing average sink to an all-time low.

barry sanders (2000):
As events turned out, Sanders didn't play a single down during the 1999-2000 season (or ever again), shocking the Lions by abruptly announcing his retirement and ending his ten-year career just before the start of training camp that summer.

Since Barry Sanders quit well before the start of the 1999 regular season, EA Sports had enough time to substitute a different graphic on the packaging of later shipments of Madden NFL 2000. The newer covers replaced the Madden/Sanders combination with a picture of Green Bay Packers running back Dorsey Levens, who spearheaded a Packers team that had just played in three straight NFC Championship Games and back-to-back Super Bowls. Although Levens performed reasonably well in 1999, he was bothered by a bad knee that he had re-injured the previous year, and Green Bay finished out of the playoff picture with a so-so 8-8 record. Levens was used only in a reserve role after that, and the Packers released him at the end of the 2001 season.

ray lewis (2005):
In 2004, Lewis failed (for the only time in his NFL career) to record even a single interception and sat out the final game of the season with an injury as the Ravens just missed qualifying for the playoffs at 9-7, and in 2005 he suffered a torn right hamstring in Baltimore's sixth game and missed the rest of the season as the Ravens dropped to 6-10.

and those aren't even the most compelling stories

would i have taken SA had he fallen to me? SURE would i have taken him at #1 or #2? probably not

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Postby josebach » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:43 am

All "curses" are absurd. It's amazing what some people put their faith into. Superstitions are among human's many weaknesses. :-)

Besides, what if Alexander misses just this one game and then comes back and has a stellar 12 games?
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Postby Verdun Barbarians » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:48 am

josebach wrote:All "curses" are absurd. It's amazing what some people put their faith into. Superstitions are among human's many weaknesses. :-)

Besides, what if Alexander misses just this one game and then comes back and has a stellar 12 games?


Well, he has not given any indications it could happen through the first three weeks :-b
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Postby wickerkat » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:55 am

the main point, imo is this:

if you drafted SA and knew there was a chance, say 75% that SA would have a below average year due to injury, or chance, and you drafted him first, would you avoid him?

who would be you starting running back if SA is out? maybe mcgahee or dunn? with sa out, who would be your #2 rb now (was your #3) thomas jones or the like?

just something to consider

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Postby BrutallyHuge » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:11 am

flotsamnjetsam wrote:It's almost as big of a joke as the "SI Cover Jinx". Jordan was on the cover more than anyone. How'd that work out for him?


He stunk at baseball and then had to retire from basketball because his skills declined so much.

The decline in skills was the direct result of SI Covers.
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