Is Manning Selfish?

[spodog]

Just trying to start a controversial topic, that's all.

This is not very controversial.

You have the most effective short yardage passing game in the NFL.

You have incredibly sure handed receivers in Wayne and Harrison.

You have a solid TE threat.

You have the most accurate passer in possibly the history of the league.

Wouldn't you use these weapons on 2nd and Goal to go?

Where's the controversy?

[Crippler]

Dont try to fix whats not broken. If it works almost every time, why not throw at the goal-line? He's not interested in personal stats, just how his teams looks at the end of the day.

[bobbing_headz]

I'm not talking about Manning throwing in short yardage as controversial. I'm talking about myself posting this as controversial. You know, lots of angry backlash from other readers.

[moonhead]

I'm not talking about Manning throwing in short yardage as controversial. I'm talking about myself posting this as controversial. You know, lots of angry backlash from other readers.

you suck!


i could get angry about this after i was smoked by manning this weekend. but i won't. people are right. no lead is safe. you're on the field for a reason and that's to score. everyone expects the run on the goal line. manning is as good as it gets throwing the ball. maybe not in leadership, but he's as booksmart as they come and he has the physical tools and talent (his own and surrounding) to do this. most teams do not, so that's why the colts are the exception.

[eaglesrule]

if you have an advantage, you should press it until the other team takes it away.

I do think some mentality is changing. Everyone proscirbes the running game this, running game that (and it is obviously important)

But if you have someone who is likely going to be ont he short list for best QB of all time, and have receivers on the caliber of wayne and harrison, why wouldn't you?

[maddog60]

Seems to me that throws a lot when he's on the goal line or really close. Possibly because of a lack of a running game or is Manning just greedy?

[/quote]

Play Tony Dungy for a moment. Goalline, you've got Peyton Manning arguably the best QB in the NFL, a future hall of famer, his targets are Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. If you need that TD, are you going to take the ball out of Manning's hands? No way. Like with any team with a great QB, you want the fate of your offense in their hands, unless in extremely fortunate cases like having Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman.

A lot of this came up in 2004 during Manning's run for the TD record, and while sure you're not going to pass every time, Manning gives the Colts the greatest chance of scoring, so I'd rather he have control than anyone else.

[JasonSeahorn]

I say peyton manning has a career high for rushing TDs this season.

[Free Bagel]

This thread is comical.

Why don't you go back and look at Indy's conversion % from inside the 5 when they run, and conversion % from inside the 5 when they pass and then rethink your posting of this thread.

Where can you do that FB?

This is a good place to start, though it's not as in depth as some of the others I can't find right now:

http://snap.stats.com/snap/pfw/nfl/leaders.asp

I used to have another one a few years back but it's a pay site now. In that year their TD % when passing from inside the 5 was around 70% and the rushing TD % was under 20%. This was during Manning's TD passing record year.