it seems to me like it falls under the "extremely" lopsided part of things to be vetoeable. Has stallworth EVER been better than Harrison? State-wise or physcial tools? (well I guess in speed). Ig uess if we are being VERY generous, we could say the qb's throwing the ball are close to a wash, and the eagles have the number one pass offense.
But I just don't see this being fair. Like I said, its harder when people play different positions, that it might be worth trading an "elite" Wr for a "good" rb. But stallworth is hurt, and until he is on the field, he is hurt. He hasn't earned as many fantasy points as harrison. He has never been as good as harrison. We know what harrison is capable of with Wayne taking balls, with stallworth, it looks like he will be up and down, especially with brown getting better by the week, and the eagles schedule getting a little tougher, and their backs being against the wall.
It seems to me the things "for" stallworth are unprovable/intangible. The evidence "for" harrison is at least quantifiable, especially since he is outproducing stallworth NOW, and the Colts have ahd their bye, and the eagles haven't. So if stallworth plays this week, he still misses another game anyway.
Meanwhile the harrison guy gets an extra game, with the player who is better.
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mbrittb00 wrote:Also, this is a limited keeper league, where we keep 4 players based on their draft position from the previous year.
Question: what were the draft positions of Harrison and Stallworth? I could see someone in last place punting on this year, saying that Harrison is on the decline, Stallworth is on the upswing, and that in the games that he played Stallworth was the better producer.
Agreed, this owner may be looking ahead to next year... this is a keeper league folks.
mbrittb00 wrote:Also, this is a limited keeper league, where we keep 4 players based on their draft position from the previous year.
Question: what were the draft positions of Harrison and Stallworth? I could see someone in last place punting on this year, saying that Harrison is on the decline, Stallworth is on the upswing, and that in the games that he played Stallworth was the better producer.
Agreed, this owner may be looking ahead to next year... this is a keeper league folks.
Great point... Harrison is probably a 2nd/3rd round pick, while Stallworth may have gone in 9th/10th range.
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mbrittb00 wrote:Also, this is a limited keeper league, where we keep 4 players based on their draft position from the previous year.
Question: what were the draft positions of Harrison and Stallworth? I could see someone in last place punting on this year, saying that Harrison is on the decline, Stallworth is on the upswing, and that in the games that he played Stallworth was the better producer.
Agreed, this owner may be looking ahead to next year... this is a keeper league folks.
Great point... Harrison is probably a 2nd/3rd round pick, while Stallworth may have gone in 9th/10th range.
Sorry for the delay (and the omition). Harrison is a 1st round pick (but he is non-keepable next year). Stallworth is a 6th.
Also, the guy trading Harrison will have (for next year as keepers) Owens as a 1st, Steve Smith as a 2nd, and Gates as a 6th. The last thing he needs is another WR keeper. Although he did keep those three plus Harrison this year.
More information. The guy trading Stallworth initially offered C. Williams (so he says, and I have not reason not to trust him). But was countered with Harrison instead of Williams.
The two guys involved are friends, but no more so than the rest of us in the league. I do not believe that Collusion is involved. The only reason that I bring this up is that the Harrison trader is at the bottom of the league (last place) and the Stallworth trade is at the top (2nd place).
Just seemed fishy to me and I wanted to see what you all thought.
mbrittb00 wrote:More information. The guy trading Stallworth initially offered C. Williams (so he says, and I have not reason not to trust him). But was countered with Harrison instead of Williams.
The two guys involved are friends, but no more so than the rest of us in the league. I do not believe that Collusion is involved. The only reason that I bring this up is that the Harrison trader is at the bottom of the league (last place) and the Stallworth trade is at the top (2nd place).
Just seemed fishy to me and I wanted to see what you all thought.
If you don't think collusion is involved, then there's no reason whatsoever for you to veto. It's an "interesting" trade, but if you believe it to be on the up-and-up then let it go.
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