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Postby knapplc » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:09 pm

The parents of a soldier killed in Iraq this week attend my church. His memorial service is scheduled for this Monday at my church. Unfortunately, since we're so close to Kansas here in Lincoln, it appears that the "people" who protest at the funerals of soldiers will be coming to our church to spread their hate at a time when the family should be left free to grieve and remember their son and brother.

There's going to be this whole mess there - police, possibly SWAT, the protesters, the Patriot Guard Riders and who knows how many people just watching. The police have designated a spot for the "protesters" across the four-lane street from my church, but these nitwits will be holding huge placards and shouting at the families. It's just a horrible mess.

This is something that I am going to have to avoid. I have an extremely low tolerance for these people (read: ZERO) and if I go, I'll probably end up getting arrested. We've had a few ideas to stop their hatred, like a counter-protest, creating twelve-foot-tall banners to block the family's view of these freaks, to a water cannon (my favorite idea).

Another crummy thing about all of this is that my in-laws live about 50 feet from where these nitwits are going to set up. I feel bad for them as well.

Sorry for the diatribe. I'm just really upset about this and I wanted to vent.
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Postby Dawinner127 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:12 pm

knapplc wrote:This is something that I am going to have to avoid. I have an extremely low tolerance for these people (read: ZERO) and if I go, I'll probably end up getting arrested. We've had a few ideas to stop their hatred, like a counter-protest, creating twelve-foot-tall banners to block the family's view of these freaks, to a water cannon (my favorite idea).

8-o That's not a good thing :-t
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Postby sportsaddict » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:20 pm

Wow, that's just awful. I couldn't even imagine trying to hold a memorial service for a loved one who had just given his life for his country, and having a bunch of idiots with an agenda come protest a war. There are just some people in this world with no respect whatsoever. I don't care how strongly you feel about the War in Iraq, to protest the war at the funeral of a solider is downright terrible.
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Postby confused_jake » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:28 pm

These protesters are idiots. What's going to happen at your church has NOTHING to do with the war in Iraq. I think what they will do is the ultimate act of disrespect. knapp I wouldn't think any less of you if you went out there and kicked some ass ;-D .
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Postby knapplc » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:31 pm

sportsaddict wrote:Wow, that's just awful. I couldn't even imagine trying to hold a memorial service for a loved one who had just given his life for his country, and having a bunch of idiots with an agenda come protest a war. There are just some people in this world with no respect whatsoever. I don't care how strongly you feel about the War in Iraq, to protest the war at the funeral of a solider is downright terrible.


Well, that's the problem - they're not protesting the war. They're protesting America's "tolerance" of homosexuality. They are anti-gay, and they choose to voice that at the funerals of soldiers. Their signs say basically that it's a good thing that these soldiers have died because they support a government that supports gays.

Their signs are just pure hatred towards the families of the fallen soldiers. It's absolutely incredible to me. I'm all for the First Amendment, but it's things like this that really make me think it's a shame it has to apply to these people.
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Postby Dawinner127 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:33 pm

knapplc wrote:
sportsaddict wrote:Wow, that's just awful. I couldn't even imagine trying to hold a memorial service for a loved one who had just given his life for his country, and having a bunch of idiots with an agenda come protest a war. There are just some people in this world with no respect whatsoever. I don't care how strongly you feel about the War in Iraq, to protest the war at the funeral of a solider is downright terrible.


Well, that's the problem - they're not protesting the war. They're protesting America's "tolerance" of homosexuality. They are anti-gay, and they choose to voice that at the funerals of soldiers. Their signs say basically that it's a good thing that these soldiers have died because they support a government that supports gays.

Their signs are just pure hatred towards the families of the fallen soldiers. It's absolutely incredible to me. I'm all for the First Amendment, but it's things like this that really make me think it's a shame it has to apply to these people.

Oh wow, I thought it was because they didn't want the war, but that is just rediculous. They have hatred towards the familes whose sons and daughters die because they support a government that supports gays 8-o That is awful :-t
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Postby bobbing_headz » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:34 pm

knapplc wrote:
sportsaddict wrote:Wow, that's just awful. I couldn't even imagine trying to hold a memorial service for a loved one who had just given his life for his country, and having a bunch of idiots with an agenda come protest a war. There are just some people in this world with no respect whatsoever. I don't care how strongly you feel about the War in Iraq, to protest the war at the funeral of a solider is downright terrible.


Well, that's the problem - they're not protesting the war. They're protesting America's "tolerance" of homosexuality. They are anti-gay, and they choose to voice that at the funerals of soldiers. Their signs say basically that it's a good thing that these soldiers have died because they support a government that supports gays.

Their signs are just pure hatred towards the families of the fallen soldiers. It's absolutely incredible to me. I'm all for the First Amendment, but it's things like this that really make me think it's a shame it has to apply to these people.


They're not protesting the war??? What?!! That's even more pathetic. That's just plain sad. They all deserve to be arrested.
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Postby Goatwhacker » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:41 pm

Knapp, that is awful. I do like the water cannon idea but I guess it's one of times you just have to suck it up and be better than them. I can guess how you feel though, the poor family of the soldier has already been through enough.
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Postby knapplc » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:45 pm

bobbing_headz wrote:
knapplc wrote:
sportsaddict wrote:Wow, that's just awful. I couldn't even imagine trying to hold a memorial service for a loved one who had just given his life for his country, and having a bunch of idiots with an agenda come protest a war. There are just some people in this world with no respect whatsoever. I don't care how strongly you feel about the War in Iraq, to protest the war at the funeral of a solider is downright terrible.


Well, that's the problem - they're not protesting the war. They're protesting America's "tolerance" of homosexuality. They are anti-gay, and they choose to voice that at the funerals of soldiers. Their signs say basically that it's a good thing that these soldiers have died because they support a government that supports gays.

Their signs are just pure hatred towards the families of the fallen soldiers. It's absolutely incredible to me. I'm all for the First Amendment, but it's things like this that really make me think it's a shame it has to apply to these people.


They're not protesting the war??? What?!! That's even more pathetic. That's just plain sad. They all deserve to be arrested.

They're just exercising their First Amendment Rights. They're doing it in a lawful way - they've alerted the local government of their intentions, they've received permits to hold their protest, and their signs and words are just Freedom of Speech issues.

I've posted this before, but it bears repeating. It's from the movie The American President, and even though it's a chick-flick it has one of the best-written statements about the First Amendment I've ever heard:

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free."


I don't like it, but they have the right to do this.
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Postby josebach » Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:33 pm

That sucks. I've seen those wackos on TV. It's this special church that has around 100 members or so and most of them are all in one family. Attention is what they're after. They get off on conflict and being yelled at, so the best thing to do is just avoid them.
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