Ohio State is no longer #1...

[NittanyLions]

I've got a bandwagon friend, he's been riding bandwagons all his life, and for a few years it's been the OSU football one, now it's OSU basketball, too. I loved waking up and making sure he knew the score

I don't think you can count either team in or out of the final four, anything can happen, and it was a big first test, a lot will change during the season.

[eman]

Both teams are overrated IMO. Maybe I'm biased, but I really don't think UNC can beat truly good teams consistently with only an overrated Hainsborough (sp?) to lead them.

Spoken like a true Duke fan. Do I need to remind you that you beat Indiana by 3 on your home court???? And you're supposedly a top 15 team. In case you didn't notice, Hansbrough wasn't the only one scoring last night.

Wait, what's that I hear....Hansbrough going for 27 & 10 vs. Shelden Williams in Durham. He went for 14 & 9 against him in Chapel Hill. He sure looks overrated to me.

And, for the record, Hansbrough is the real deal...and he is better than Noah.

Don't get your panties in a bunch. I never said Duke was good....they aren't...this year 'd be surprised if they make the elite eight, though I'm willing to bet they win it all at least one of the next 2 years after.

Exhibit one in why Hansborough is going to be UNC's downfall:
Against Gonzaga he went for only 9 points to go with 9 rebounds (And 0 assts/blocks). He has a bad game, and, would't you know it, the Heels lost. The kid's bound to have some bad games, and it seems at this point that UNC can't pick up the slack when Hansborough isn't playing well. Until UNC beats a good team on an off day for Hansbrough, I'll continue to doubt their chances at a Final Four or even an Elite Eight.

[CC]

Both teams are overrated IMO. Maybe I'm biased, but I really don't think UNC can beat truly good teams consistently with only an overrated Hainsborough (sp?) to lead them.

Spoken like a true Duke fan. Do I need to remind you that you beat Indiana by 3 on your home court???? And you're supposedly a top 15 team. In case you didn't notice, Hansbrough wasn't the only one scoring last night.

Wait, what's that I hear....Hansbrough going for 27 & 10 vs. Shelden Williams in Durham. He went for 14 & 9 against him in Chapel Hill. He sure looks overrated to me.

And, for the record, Hansbrough is the real deal...and he is better than Noah.

Don't get your panties in a bunch. I never said Duke was good....they aren't...this year 'd be surprised if they make the elite eight, though I'm willing to bet they win it all at least one of the next 2 years after.

Exhibit one in why Hansborough is going to be UNC's downfall:
Against Gonzaga he went for only 9 points to go with 9 rebounds (And 0 assts/blocks). He has a bad game, and, would't you know it, the Heels lost. The kid's bound to have some bad games, and it seems at this point that UNC can't pick up the slack when Hansborough isn't playing well. Until UNC beats a good team on an off day for Hansbrough, I'll continue to doubt their chances at a Final Four or even an Elite Eight.

So Hansbrough is overrated even though you think UNC isn't any good when he has a bad game? So wouldn't that just go to show how important he is to UNC (a top 5 team) and how talented he is.

[aldridg6in]

Don't get your panties in a bunch. I never said Duke was good....they aren't...this year 'd be surprised if they make the elite eight, though I'm willing to bet they win it all at least one of the next 2 years after.

Exhibit one in why Hansborough is going to be UNC's downfall:
Against Gonzaga he went for only 9 points to go with 9 rebounds (And 0 assts/blocks). He has a bad game, and, would't you know it, the Heels lost. The kid's bound to have some bad games, and it seems at this point that UNC can't pick up the slack when Hansborough isn't playing well. Until UNC beats a good team on an off day for Hansbrough, I'll continue to doubt their chances at a Final Four or even an Elite Eight.

I was just pointing out that the "overrated" freshman Hansbrough thoroughly dominated your top 10 draft pick center last year...on his senior night.

Yes, Hansbrough is going to have some off days and the Tar Heels will lose. Hansbrough will have some great games and the Tar Heels will lose. It's a team game. I'm willing to bet that the Heels lose 5-6 games this year. I'm also going to bet that Hansbrough has many more good games than bad games this year. As I mentioned earlier, he only scored 21 of their 98 points so it's pretty obvious that other people are capable of stepping up. It didn't happen against Gonzaga, but it's going to happen more often than not.

Last year, Hansbrough failed to lead the Heels in scoring in 12 games. The Tar Heels went 9-3 in those games. They were 14-5 in games where he was the leading scorer. The supporting cast is better this year than last year. In March this team will be scary.

[eman]

I should rephrase. Hansbrough as a player isn't overrated, but people overrate UNC as a result of him being on their team.

We can wait for March to see if this team is "scary". I'd be willing to bet they don't make the Final Four though.

[A Fleshner Fantasy]

they did not deserve to be #1- they had played literally no one

[Sandrock]

they did not deserve to be #1- they had played literally no one

That really doesn't matter too much, the new #1 won't have played anyone either.

[dgan]

People sure are opinionated about college basketball...last time I checked, it is still NOVEMBER.

I don't know how you're all so confident as to who is overrated and who isn't. At this time of the year, coaches are still working on rotations, plays, and team identity. So much will change in the next 2 months. Save some arguments for February.

[aldridg6in]

People sure are opinionated about college basketball...last time I checked, it is still NOVEMBER.

I don't know how you're all so confident as to who is overrated and who isn't. At this time of the year, coaches are still working on rotations, plays, and team identity. So much will change in the next 2 months. Save some arguments for February.

That's all true, but it's just as much fun to make the arguments now. Plus, there have been a few really good games so far and there are few more non-conference games worth watching before conference play begins. That's the beauty of college basketball.

[dgan]

People sure are opinionated about college basketball...last time I checked, it is still NOVEMBER.

I don't know how you're all so confident as to who is overrated and who isn't. At this time of the year, coaches are still working on rotations, plays, and team identity. So much will change in the next 2 months. Save some arguments for February.

That's all true, but it's just as much fun to make the arguments now. Plus, there have been a few really good games so far and there are few more non-conference games worth watching before conference play begins. That's the beauty of college basketball.

I suppose there may be a certain entertainment value to it. However, I prefer to make an argument that I feel strongly about based on what I know - not just making an argument for the sake of making an argument based on speculation of other people's speculation.

But by all means, I do not wish to spoil the fun. Argue away!