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Postby Free Bagel » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:17 pm

It looks like ESPN is projecting the computers to be a dead heat, with UF ahead in 3 of them and Michigan ahead in 3 of them. One will have UF #1 but that will get dropped.

So it looks like it comes down to the new poll, the Harris, assuming ESPN is right. If UF is #2 then they go, if Michigan is #2 then UF has to be within 46pts of Michigan (they were down 86pts last week).
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Postby HskrPwr13 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:34 pm

Free Bagel wrote:It looks like ESPN is projecting the computers to be a dead heat, with UF ahead in 3 of them and Michigan ahead in 3 of them. One will have UF #1 but that will get dropped.

So it looks like it comes down to the new poll, the Harris, assuming ESPN is right. If UF is #2 then they go, if Michigan is #2 then UF has to be within 46pts of Michigan (they were down 86pts last week).


What would be nice is if the accountability was there. We dont know who is changing their votes and why they're changing them. I think if this information was public, 'we' would at least have a understanding as to why FLA was or wasnt pushed ahead of Michigan even if 'we' dont like the results.
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Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:04 pm

HskrPwr13 wrote:
Free Bagel wrote:It looks like ESPN is projecting the computers to be a dead heat, with UF ahead in 3 of them and Michigan ahead in 3 of them. One will have UF #1 but that will get dropped.

So it looks like it comes down to the new poll, the Harris, assuming ESPN is right. If UF is #2 then they go, if Michigan is #2 then UF has to be within 46pts of Michigan (they were down 86pts last week).


What would be nice is if the accountability was there. We dont know who is changing their votes and why they're changing them. I think if this information was public, 'we' would at least have a understanding as to why FLA was or wasnt pushed ahead of Michigan even if 'we' dont like the results.


Isn't the coaches poll public? :-?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:11 pm

Tressel did not vote in the coaches poll.
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Postby The Balanced Man » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:14 pm

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The Balanced Man wrote:I don't see how it's unfair...

I mean, Michigan did have their shot, and they lost.


That doesn't make them worse than Florida. Vegas gives 3 points to the home team which is exactly what Michigan lost by. The nat'l champ game is the 2 best teams regardless of everything else. Now you are penalizing Michigan for having to play Ohio St. earlier in the year?


That doesn't make them better than Florida either. Only voters in polls decide who is better. If voters put Florida #2 after a big win over Arkansas, and that lifts them to #2 in the BCS, they they are the better team where it counts.


So I'm still confused why it's unfair...
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Postby stomperrob » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:18 pm

Article on CBS:

Florida likely will play Ohio State for national title
Dec. 3, 2006
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

The early indications are that Florida will play Ohio State for the national championship.

The Gators (12-1) jumped over Michigan (11-1) in the USA Today coaches' poll Sunday, taking a 26-point lead on the No. 3 Wolverines, and a BCS analyst expects Florida to also move into second place in the Bowl Championship Series standings, too.

The coaches poll and Harris poll -- due out later Sunday -- make up two-thirds of the formula used by the Bowl Championship Series in its standings. A compilation of six computer rating account for the other third.

The top two teams in the final standings, which along with the BCS pairings were to be released Sunday night, play for the national title in Glendale, Ariz, on Jan. 8.

Ohio State (12-0) has already locked up the top spot.

After Southern California blew its chance to play Ohio State with a 13-9 loss to UCLA on Saturday, Florida and Michigan were vying for that second spot.

Jerry Palm, an independent BCS expert, said he anticipated the Gators moving past Michigan in the computer rating. But even if the Gators and Michigan were tied in the computers, Michigan would need a 48-point lead in the Harris poll to wipe out the Gators lead in the coaches poll.

That would very much go against the trends, said Palm.

"The polls tend to mirror each other," he said in a telephone interview.

In the Associated Press Top 25, which is not used in the BCS standings, Florida also passed Michigan into second, but held just a three-point advantage.

The Los Angeles Times also reported on its website Sunday that Florida would play Ohio State, according an unidentified BCS source.

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Postby HskrPwr13 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:46 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
HskrPwr13 wrote:
Free Bagel wrote:It looks like ESPN is projecting the computers to be a dead heat, with UF ahead in 3 of them and Michigan ahead in 3 of them. One will have UF #1 but that will get dropped.

So it looks like it comes down to the new poll, the Harris, assuming ESPN is right. If UF is #2 then they go, if Michigan is #2 then UF has to be within 46pts of Michigan (they were down 86pts last week).


What would be nice is if the accountability was there. We dont know who is changing their votes and why they're changing them. I think if this information was public, 'we' would at least have a understanding as to why FLA was or wasnt pushed ahead of Michigan even if 'we' dont like the results.


Isn't the coaches poll public? :-?


Only the final poll. We wont know who changed their rankings since last week.
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Postby HskrPwr13 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:49 pm

stomperrob wrote:Article on CBS:

Florida likely will play Ohio State for national title
Dec. 3, 2006
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

The early indications are that Florida will play Ohio State for the national championship.

The Gators (12-1) jumped over Michigan (11-1) in the USA Today coaches' poll Sunday, taking a 26-point lead on the No. 3 Wolverines, and a BCS analyst expects Florida to also move into second place in the Bowl Championship Series standings, too.

The coaches poll and Harris poll -- due out later Sunday -- make up two-thirds of the formula used by the Bowl Championship Series in its standings. A compilation of six computer rating account for the other third.

The top two teams in the final standings, which along with the BCS pairings were to be released Sunday night, play for the national title in Glendale, Ariz, on Jan. 8.

Ohio State (12-0) has already locked up the top spot.

After Southern California blew its chance to play Ohio State with a 13-9 loss to UCLA on Saturday, Florida and Michigan were vying for that second spot.

Jerry Palm, an independent BCS expert, said he anticipated the Gators moving past Michigan in the computer rating. But even if the Gators and Michigan were tied in the computers, Michigan would need a 48-point lead in the Harris poll to wipe out the Gators lead in the coaches poll.

That would very much go against the trends, said Palm.

"The polls tend to mirror each other," he said in a telephone interview.

In the Associated Press Top 25, which is not used in the BCS standings, Florida also passed Michigan into second, but held just a three-point advantage.

The Los Angeles Times also reported on its website Sunday that Florida would play Ohio State, according an unidentified BCS source.

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To me, the fact that the Harris Poll gets done after the coaches poll is another integrity issue with the voters. I'm quite sure there are some Harris voters that just copy and paste the coaches poll and submit it as their own.
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Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:50 pm

Thanks Husker, i didn't know that ;-D
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Postby HskrPwr13 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:54 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:Thanks Husker, i didn't know that ;-D
...no prob



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