Twisted Sister wrote:Matt and Others -
To stay on topic... this is a H2H league that added Total Points as the defining criteria for wildcard spots.
This is not a debate of which is more fair... H2H or Total Points.
If I join a H2H league... yeah I'll be PO'd if H2H rankings goes out the window just because I'm contending for a wildcard spot.
What if I straight up beat the team with higher points... I would be really upset.
Again, a lot of people complain about how they have such high total points but didn't make the playoffs... yada yada yada.
In virtually every case where there is a huge point gap (say they are ranked #1-3 in points, but miss in a 6 team playoff system)... it's because they have such inconsisent performance. They had a few mega-boom games that inflated their total averages.
This streaky team deserves to advance over another team that has a better record??? It's really worth changing the philosophy/rules of the whole league to let this team in? I think not.
Does a team with .000001% higher points, but worse record, deserve to be in the playoffs?
Again, I'm talking H2H format strictly.
One last thing... we're a little on the FF freak side here on the cafe. However, most leagues have a few casual players. Adding confusing/incosistent rules has major drawbacks.
Actually, a debate on which is a more fair method of deciding playoff teams is actually pretty much what is being discussed here. The question is that if a team is doing very well points wise, which is the best indicator of which team is performing the best, should they get in even if they get unlucky schedule wise?
Once again, the generalization you are making by saying that the teams with high points but bad records are inconsistent is just plain wrong. This is actually NOT true in virtually every case of competitive leagues I've been in where this has taken place.
This is not a thread where it is best to limit it to the discussion of a specific topic, it is a good place right now to discuss if this is a good method to use, and if it is should it be tweaked a bit, or should it be purely on points for those last two spots?
I think that those spots should only be given to teams based on points if they finished in the top few in the league in total points, otherwise give it to the team with the best records.
You completely dodged everything I brought up by trying to "stay on topic". There is no real argument that can be made against wins and losses being nearly 100% luck (assuming that the teams in question are active) because scheduling is what determines the wins and losses. The only thing the owner can control is the points for their team, and the team that is able to do this the best should get rewarded for it.