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Postby knapplc » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:15 pm

Deft hands and a pure heart triumph again. :-b

LOS ANGELES, Dec 11 (Reuters Life!) - As the esteemed Kazakh television journalist Borat Sagdiyev might say: "High Five. Sexy Time. You Lose."

Two college fraternity buddies shown guzzling alcohol and making racist remarks in the "Borat" movie have lost their bid for a court order to cut the scene they claim has tarnished their reputations, court papers revealed on Monday.

The students sued the movie's distributor and producers last month, saying filmmakers had duped them into appearing in "Borat" by getting them drunk and falsely promising the film would never be shown in the United States.

At the time the suit was filed, a judge denied the pair's request for a temporary restraining order that would remove footage of them from the film, but the plaintiffs were given a another chance to seek an injunction at a hearing last week.

The South Carolina college students lost again when Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Joseph Biderman ruled they had failed to show a reasonable probability of success on the merits of their case or that money damages alone would be insufficient to resolve their claims.

Arguments on the latest motion focused mainly on the future DVD release of the hit movie, "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan."

The faux documentary, distributed by 20th Century Fox, has already grossed more than $120 million at the North American box office after six weeks in theaters.

The lawyer for the students, Olivier Taillieu, said last week that while the film's theatrical run is coming to a close, the perpetuity of the film on DVD posed ongoing problems for his clients, including harm to their ability to seek work.

Last month, Taillieu said the movie had cost one of the students a job at a major corporation and another a prestigious internship. The students were identified in court papers only as John Doe 1 and John Doe 2. A third student involved in the scene did not take part in the suit.

The film stars British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen as a fictional Kazakh TV journalist whose boorish sensibilities clash with ordinary Americans. The story line is driven by a series of improvised encounters with people who become Baron Cohen's unsuspecting foils.

The scene at issue in the lawsuit depicts Borat getting drunk with three frat boys in a motor home while they watch a sex tape and make racist remarks about slavery and minorities in the United States.


Gosh, maybe if they hadn't made racist comments they wouldn't have anything to gripe about, huh? DUH!!!!

I have zero sympathy for these two nitwits.
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Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:17 pm

They were idiots...made the movie funny though- i dont feel bad for them at all
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Postby josebach » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:30 pm

Yeah, they were idiots. Hopefully, the rest of the world is smart enough to realize that not all of our college students are like that.
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Postby Redskins Win » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:45 pm

knapplc wrote:Deft hands and a pure heart triumph again. :-b

LOS ANGELES, Dec 11 (Reuters Life!) - As the esteemed Kazakh television journalist Borat Sagdiyev might say: "High Five. Sexy Time. You Lose."

Two college fraternity buddies shown guzzling alcohol and making racist remarks in the "Borat" movie have lost their bid for a court order to cut the scene they claim has tarnished their reputations, court papers revealed on Monday.

The students sued the movie's distributor and producers last month, saying filmmakers had duped them into appearing in "Borat" by getting them drunk and falsely promising the film would never be shown in the United States.

At the time the suit was filed, a judge denied the pair's request for a temporary restraining order that would remove footage of them from the film, but the plaintiffs were given a another chance to seek an injunction at a hearing last week.

The South Carolina college students lost again when Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Joseph Biderman ruled they had failed to show a reasonable probability of success on the merits of their case or that money damages alone would be insufficient to resolve their claims.

Arguments on the latest motion focused mainly on the future DVD release of the hit movie, "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan."

The faux documentary, distributed by 20th Century Fox, has already grossed more than $120 million at the North American box office after six weeks in theaters.

The lawyer for the students, Olivier Taillieu, said last week that while the film's theatrical run is coming to a close, the perpetuity of the film on DVD posed ongoing problems for his clients, including harm to their ability to seek work.

Last month, Taillieu said the movie had cost one of the students a job at a major corporation and another a prestigious internship. The students were identified in court papers only as John Doe 1 and John Doe 2. A third student involved in the scene did not take part in the suit.

The film stars British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen as a fictional Kazakh TV journalist whose boorish sensibilities clash with ordinary Americans. The story line is driven by a series of improvised encounters with people who become Baron Cohen's unsuspecting foils.

The scene at issue in the lawsuit depicts Borat getting drunk with three frat boys in a motor home while they watch a sex tape and make racist remarks about slavery and minorities in the United States.


Gosh, maybe if they hadn't made racist comments they wouldn't have anything to gripe about, huh? DUH!!!!

I have zero sympathy for these two nitwits.


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Postby Matthias » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:58 pm

knapplc wrote:The South Carolina college students lost again when Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Joseph Biderman ruled they had failed to show a reasonable probability of success on the merits of their case or that money damages alone would be insufficient to resolve their claims.

This is really all that was decided, though. Whether or not they prevail and win monetary damages will be an entirely different question.
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Postby knapplc » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:12 pm

Matthias wrote:
knapplc wrote:The South Carolina college students lost again when Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Joseph Biderman ruled they had failed to show a reasonable probability of success on the merits of their case or that money damages alone would be insufficient to resolve their claims.

This is really all that was decided, though. Whether or not they prevail and win monetary damages will be an entirely different question.

Yeah, I'm sure they didn't get all lawyered up to quit after this ruling.

But it is Borat 1, Kids 0. Round two may even it up. ;-D
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Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:34 pm

We actually looked at this contract in my contracts class and disected it to see if it would hold up. It is a very well written contract and these people complaining just didn't read the full contract. As far as intoxication goes, it isn't a defense if it is truly what you feel saying it.
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Postby josebach » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:44 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:We actually looked at this contract in my contracts class and disected it to see if it would hold up. It is a very well written contract and these people complaining just didn't read the full contract. As far as intoxication goes, it isn't a defense if it is truly what you feel saying it.


What if they had the kids sign the contract while they were intoxicated?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:49 pm

josebach wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:We actually looked at this contract in my contracts class and disected it to see if it would hold up. It is a very well written contract and these people complaining just didn't read the full contract. As far as intoxication goes, it isn't a defense if it is truly what you feel saying it.


What if they had the kids sign the contract while they were intoxicated?


That would have been different, they could then use diminished capacity and may be able to get out of it. Problem for them would be they would be suing for contract damages so the only remedy they coul get would be to take them out of the movie now, which is by the time they get the relief there will have been tons of DVDs sold so it will make it moot
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Postby Matthias » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:17 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
josebach wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:We actually looked at this contract in my contracts class and disected it to see if it would hold up. It is a very well written contract and these people complaining just didn't read the full contract. As far as intoxication goes, it isn't a defense if it is truly what you feel saying it.

What if they had the kids sign the contract while they were intoxicated?

That would have been different, they could then use diminished capacity and may be able to get out of it. Problem for them would be they would be suing for contract damages so the only remedy they coul get would be to take them out of the movie now, which is by the time they get the relief there will have been tons of DVDs sold so it will make it moot

Well, they would assumedly sue for recission and then as a follow-on unauthorized use of likeness. And since they can't get injunctive relief, sue for monetary damages.

In law school, I talked about the idea of going to a bar, running up a tab, and then refusing to pay on diminished capacity grounds, that I hadn't formed a binding contract to purchase the alcohol. My professor was bemused but thought I was better off simply paying, pointing out that in Lucy v. Zehmer the guy was, "high as a Georgia pine" but the contract was still upheld.
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