Just an Observation(wides)

[codered7]

Final stats fo WR1/WR2:

For fantasy value...which performed better for their draft position. WR1 or 2? I did 16 #1 wides that I really questioned(http://www.fantasyfootballcafe.com/foru ... &&start=15) their value over #2 wides half way during the season. I got some criticism for my post earlier in the season...but I really think I had a point. This year was the emergence of many great fantasy value #2 wides.

2-I'd take Wayne over Harrison all day...for the value
1Marvin Harrison-1292/11
2Reggie Wayne-1240/9

2/3-Housh...especially what Ocho did in fantasy playoffs
1Ocho Cinco-1316/7
2Housh-1037/9
3Henry-8tds

2-Furrey he came out of nowhere, in fantasy tds is where the pts are at his 5 tds make him as valuable as roy(especially how he sucked in playoffs)
1Roy Williams-1206/5
2Furrey-984/5

1-TO got saved by Romo... I really think Glenn would have outperformed butterfinger TO if Bledsoe stayed at the helm(halfway through it looked that way).
1TO-1040+wk16/12
2Glenn-921/6

2-WOW what a bust, Ward sucked compared to Nate Washingtons draft position...which didn't exist.
1Ward-924/6
2N.Washington-603/4

2-Cotchery is alot like furrey. Outperformed Coles for his position in draft.
1Coles-1065/6
2Cotchery-858/5

2-Berrian more tds..kinda became #1 and rex favorite target, but I think he still is #2 in depth
1Moose-836/5
2Berrian-758/6

2-this one was kinda obvious...but McCardell is still #1 in depth(edit...eddie parker now is #1...buuuut eddie parker only had a lil more yds than McCardell and no tds, much worse than vjax)
1McCardell-398/0
2Vjax-425/5

2-Even tho Randy Moss stopped playing... I think Curry did better as the #1 option than Moss when he was healthy.
1Randy Moss-553/3
3Curry-680/1

2-D.Mason wheres the consistent 1000 yd season? Mark Clayton dominated D.Mason, especially towards the end of the year.
1D.Mason-720/2
2Mark Clayton-913/5

2-Reggie Brown-stats say it all...
1Donte Stallworth-674+wk16/5
2Reggie Brown-789+wk16/8

2-Chambers u bum! Booker overtook Chambers because of Harrington... but Chambers never did do anything even with Culpepper, either way the #2 owned the #1 here.
1Chambers-622/4
2Booker-701/6

2-This one doesn't really count..since Boldin and Fitz are like the same person. I think Fitz will and should be #1 next year...and will be top 5, but I think he's listed as #2 on depth still?
1Boldin-1091/4
2Fitz-913/5

2-Colston just took Horns job, no matter the injuries Horn had.
1Horn-679/4
2Colston-1038/8

2-This was forecasted...Javon is really a #1 now but he was listed as a #2 in the beginning of the season
1Rod Smith-453/3
2Javon Walker-1059/8

1-Stevie stud...but half way I was questioning his studness. Loss of Delhomme was the end of his stud days.
1S.Smith-1081/6
2Keyshawn-791/4

14/16-WR#2 have better fantasy value over WR#1.... i think thats pretty significant

[Crippler]

It looks as though teams are starting to spread the ball around more as defenses key in on the #1 WRs more and more.

Great post, and thanks for all of the information.

[maddog60]

Why only 16 teams?

Also, I would heavily disagree with some of the assessments. how are you figuring they outperform their average draft position? What kind of league settings are you using to determine this? How in the world do you claim Fitz outperformed Boldin when Fitz has lesser stats and was drafted higher in most leagues? And if it doesn't count, like you say, then why are you including it? Where were you grabbing the WR1/WR2 listings? I know that yahoo has typically gotten it wrong on several teams over the years.

I like the premise of this post, but I think it'd make a much more convincing argument if you could fill in some of these holes.

[ateam]

Nice post codered7.

It would be interesting to see all the teams, however.

[Joeybagadonuts]

Why only 16 teams?

Also, I would heavily disagree with some of the assessments. how are you figuring they outperform their average draft position? What kind of league settings are you using to determine this? How in the world do you claim Fitz outperformed Boldin when Fitz has lesser stats and was drafted higher in most leagues? And if it doesn't count, like you say, then why are you including it? Where were you grabbing the WR1/WR2 listings? I know that yahoo has typically gotten it wrong on several teams over the years.

I like the premise of this post, but I think it'd make a much more convincing argument if you could fill in some of these holes.

Jeesh Dude, lighten up.

I think this is a nice post, quite interesting stuff to consider going into draft day next year...

I would disagree with you on Harrison though. That guy won many a team a champion ship with his stud performances the last two weeks...I was a Wayne owner, and he was downright dreadful as of late. Sure, Harrison was a bit streaky, but he didn't fade toward the end of the season, something you've accused Chad of doing, rightly.

I'd have been thrilled with Housh + Harrison, vs the Wayne and CJ that I owned. Then again, I won my 2nd championship in two years, so who am I to play tuesday morning quarterback.

But your overal point is a good one, drafting the number two guy on a team with a clear number one (for the most part) is a a GREAT idea, and the percentages you've presented on teams with clear number ones, are overwhelming....nice job!

[Munboy]

WRs are a crap shoot more than any other position. I wouldn't be suprised if I see Wayne go before Harrison next year. I'll still take Ocho Cinco over the other receivers. He had a horrible first 3/4th of the year. Now that defenses know they can't blanket 85, leaving Whosurmamma open, 85 should get back to good number next year. It wasn't Ward's fault his numbers were down. It's Big Ben and their Oline's fault. Randy Moss will have no value as long as he's playing in Oakland, thats no suprise there. Stallworth's numbers was hurt by injuries, which isn't a suprise. He's got the weakest hammies in the league. Rod Smith's numbers have been steadily declining as his age is going up. It was no suprise Walker blew him out of the water. Same goes for Steve Smith and Keyshawn.

most of the others were suprises.

[codered7]

Why only 16 teams?

Also, I would heavily disagree with some of the assessments. how are you figuring they outperform their average draft position? What kind of league settings are you using to determine this? How in the world do you claim Fitz outperformed Boldin when Fitz has lesser stats and was drafted higher in most leagues? And if it doesn't count, like you say, then why are you including it? Where were you grabbing the WR1/WR2 listings? I know that yahoo has typically gotten it wrong on several teams over the years.

I like the premise of this post, but I think it'd make a much more convincing argument if you could fill in some of these holes.

-I'm basing my assessments on standard yahoo rankings(td=6, wides 20yd per pt, no ppr)
-Bolin/Fitz was like the same person before drafts...imo I would of taken Fitz...but many rankings had them very close.
-Fitz was injured for 3 weeks(you don't remember?) and ever since he has come back he has performed much better than boldin(td 3 outa the last four weeks).
-yes Fitz was drafted higher than boldin...and he SHOULD be the #1 wide on the depth chart...but he isn't(well according to yahoo), but if your the opposing team who would u rather have ur #1 cb on Boldin or Fitz? It's pick your poison.

-only did 16 teams cause these were the ones I really questioned halfway through the season...the other teams either had no fantasy worthy wides really(pats, ten, atl, vikings, etc. ) or it was pretty clear cut that the #1 beat the #2(tb=galloway, sea=djax, bills=lee, gb=driver, etc.).