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Postby Kilroy » Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:44 pm

Plindsey88 wrote:Getting back on topic, here, I have to wonder, with regards to this case, if the woman in question was white... I mean, this is Georgia we're talking about... As detestable as it is, having grown up just a few miles outside of Georgia, and having just moved from Alabama, I can attest to the fact that the courts in that part of the country are still much harsher on black men having sex with underage white women than white men having sex with the same... I'd be willing to bet the accuser in this case was white, which would explain the severity of the punishment...


According to an Article in Atlanta Magazine the girl in question is black.

Link: http://www.atlantamagazine.com/article.php?id=158
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Postby anderbudd » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:18 pm

[In a rape case, the woman’s intoxication is counted against the rapist, since she is clearly not in a frame of mind to make clear decisions]

which means that courts still consider the male in a sexual union as the aggressor, no matter what. The pity of this case is that the girl claimed to be the aggressor, and that sex was consensual, and even with that, he was still found guilty of following out a primal desire.

Does anyone know if there has ever been a male who has sucessfully filed rape charges against a female?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:22 pm

anderbudd wrote:[In a rape case, the woman’s intoxication is counted against the rapist, since she is clearly not in a frame of mind to make clear decisions]

which means that courts still consider the male in a sexual union as the aggressor, no matter what. The pity of this case is that the girl claimed to be the aggressor, and that sex was consensual, and even with that, he was still found guilty of following out a primal desire.

Does anyone know if there has ever been a male who has sucessfully filed rape charges against a female?


Its impossible for a man to be raped by american law
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Postby anderbudd » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:29 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
Its impossible for a man to be raped by american law


I'm not willing to devote a lot of time to thinking about whether female to male rape is possible, but it seems that with all the gender equality that we strive for at this time that both parties should have a right to speak, and in this case, they were given that right, but she was 15 and therefore incapable of making a decision of the nature she did. I understand why that rule is in place.

Assuming something like "Men can't be sexually harassed" stereotypes all men as motivated solely by sexual drive.

Not that I personally mind when women come on to me (It happened once, I promise!!). . .

It just seems odd that someone should have to, in effect, lose their career and life over something that most teenager boys are fantacizing about at least once every 10 seconds.

I guess I'm not adding anything new to this. I won't post anymore.
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Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:36 pm

anderbudd wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
Its impossible for a man to be raped by american law


I'm not willing to devote a lot of time to thinking about whether female to male rape is possible, but it seems that with all the gender equality that we strive for at this time that both parties should have a right to speak, and in this case, they were given that right, but she was 15 and therefore incapable of making a decision of the nature she did. I understand why that rule is in place.

Assuming something like "Men can't be sexually harassed" stereotypes all men as motivated solely by sexual drive.

Not that I personally mind when women come on to me (It happened once, I promise!!). . .

It just seems odd that someone should have to, in effect, lose their career and life over something that most teenager boys are fantacizing about at least once every 10 seconds.

I guess I'm not adding anything new to this. I won't post anymore.


No, what i meant was the way the law is set-up, a women cannot be charged with rape against a man. I learned this in my criminal law class.
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Postby anderbudd » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:43 pm

Yeah, I understood you. It just seems that at times that laws regarding gender bias sway to the point that laws designed to ensure justice actually bring injustice, which seems to be the consensus of many people regarding the Genarlow Wilson case. It does not seem "just" to take 10 years away from a teenager for a mistake he made.

Oops, I posted again. Sorry.
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Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:49 pm

anderbudd wrote:Yeah, I understood you. It just seems that at times that laws regarding gender bias sway to the point that laws designed to ensure justice actually bring injustice, which seems to be the consensus of many people regarding the Genarlow Wilson case. It does not seem "just" to take 10 years away from a teenager for a mistake he made.

Oops, I posted again. Sorry.


I totally agree with you. I think this case is ridiculous and the DA should have had some bigger balls and stepped up and said i am not going to prosecute this kid. As far as the rape law goes, trust me i think it is dumb as well. I argued with my professor on this for a long time.
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Postby Kilroy » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:02 am

deerayfan072 wrote:
anderbudd wrote:[In a rape case, the woman’s intoxication is counted against the rapist, since she is clearly not in a frame of mind to make clear decisions]

which means that courts still consider the male in a sexual union as the aggressor, no matter what. The pity of this case is that the girl claimed to be the aggressor, and that sex was consensual, and even with that, he was still found guilty of following out a primal desire.

Does anyone know if there has ever been a male who has sucessfully filed rape charges against a female?


Its impossible for a man to be raped by american law


So you're saying that in none of the 50 states can a woman be criminally charged with raping a man?

I find that hard to believe. (not because I question your word, that just kinda blows my mind a bit.)

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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:05 am

Kilroy1872 wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
anderbudd wrote:[In a rape case, the woman’s intoxication is counted against the rapist, since she is clearly not in a frame of mind to make clear decisions]

which means that courts still consider the male in a sexual union as the aggressor, no matter what. The pity of this case is that the girl claimed to be the aggressor, and that sex was consensual, and even with that, he was still found guilty of following out a primal desire.

Does anyone know if there has ever been a male who has sucessfully filed rape charges against a female?


Its impossible for a man to be raped by american law


So you're saying that in none of the 50 states can a woman be criminally charged with raping a man?

I find that hard to believe. (not because I question your word, that just kinda blows my mind a bit.)

:-?


I know thats the case here in FL, and i am pretty sure its across the board
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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:15 am

deerayfan072 wrote:
Kilroy1872 wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
anderbudd wrote:[In a rape case, the woman’s intoxication is counted against the rapist, since she is clearly not in a frame of mind to make clear decisions]

which means that courts still consider the male in a sexual union as the aggressor, no matter what. The pity of this case is that the girl claimed to be the aggressor, and that sex was consensual, and even with that, he was still found guilty of following out a primal desire.

Does anyone know if there has ever been a male who has sucessfully filed rape charges against a female?


Its impossible for a man to be raped by american law


So you're saying that in none of the 50 states can a woman be criminally charged with raping a man?

I find that hard to believe. (not because I question your word, that just kinda blows my mind a bit.)

:-?


Statutory rape and the like yes, but the normal rape no b/c of the erection part. The women would have to get the guy to have an erection so it basically becomes impossible due to how the statute is written
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