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Postby steelerfan513 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:57 pm

Very good move, and uncharacteristic of the Pats. They can afford to lose Daniel Graham; Ben Watson is developing well, and they picked another guy in the third round a couple years ago as well. Samuel is less expendable.
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Postby sox 06 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:01 pm

Finally the Pats actually paid someone. 8-o ;-D
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Postby RocketsDWM » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:01 pm

steelerfan513 wrote:Very good move, and uncharacteristic of the Pats. They can afford to lose Daniel Graham; Ben Watson is developing well, and they picked another guy in the third round a couple years ago as well. Samuel is less expendable.


Getting a guy below market value is uncharacteritstic of the Pats? They basically did this to get insurance (two picks) in case someone throws ridiculous money at him. If Samuel was on the open market, he would have received about 13 million.
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Postby steelerfan513 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:08 pm

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steelerfan513 wrote:Very good move, and uncharacteristic of the Pats. They can afford to lose Daniel Graham; Ben Watson is developing well, and they picked another guy in the third round a couple years ago as well. Samuel is less expendable.


Getting a guy below market value is uncharacteritstic of the Pats? They basically did this to get insurance (two picks) in case someone throws ridiculous money at him. If Samuel was on the open market, he would have received about 13 million.


I meant more that they usually let guys go through free agency rather than pay them. I'm not saying it was a bad move or that the Pats usually make bad moves; they just have consistently let players go more than resign them.
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Postby maddog60 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:12 am

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steelerfan513 wrote:Very good move, and uncharacteristic of the Pats. They can afford to lose Daniel Graham; Ben Watson is developing well, and they picked another guy in the third round a couple years ago as well. Samuel is less expendable.


Getting a guy below market value is uncharacteritstic of the Pats? They basically did this to get insurance (two picks) in case someone throws ridiculous money at him. If Samuel was on the open market, he would have received about 13 million.


13 million a year? I don't think so. Its a good move, but the Pats are paying top-dollar for him. Franchise salaries are figured by summing the top 5 salaries at that position and taking the average. Still money well spent, as no one is giving up two 1st rounders, and it basically gives them time to negotiate exclusively on a much more fiscally beneficial deal for both parties.
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Postby RocketsDWM » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:49 am

maddog60 wrote:
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steelerfan513 wrote:Very good move, and uncharacteristic of the Pats. They can afford to lose Daniel Graham; Ben Watson is developing well, and they picked another guy in the third round a couple years ago as well. Samuel is less expendable.


Getting a guy below market value is uncharacteritstic of the Pats? They basically did this to get insurance (two picks) in case someone throws ridiculous money at him. If Samuel was on the open market, he would have received about 13 million.


13 million a year? I don't think so. Its a good move, but the Pats are paying top-dollar for him. Franchise salaries are figured by summing the top 5 salaries at that position and taking the average. Still money well spent, as no one is giving up two 1st rounders, and it basically gives them time to negotiate exclusively on a much more fiscally beneficial deal for both parties.


That's what I was hearing/reading.

Samuel has to be watching the Clements situation closely, since he and the two-time Pro Bowler figured to be neck and neck in the free agent market. If Clements lands a signing bonus of, say, $14 million, Samuel would be crazy to accept one much below $13 million.


Meant to say signing bonus.
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Postby maddog60 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:55 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:Meant to say signing bonus.


A ha, signing bonus makes a lot more sense.
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Postby mrblitz » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:07 pm

New England should definitely lock him up. He's one hell of a player, one of the brightest at his position in the game today.
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Postby portisfan24 » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:34 am

Most of the guys the Pats usually let go are on the downside of their career, with the exception of Branch. I don't think this move is that surprising at all.
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