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Postby Munboy » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:04 am

The dude's a tool. Just another example of so much wasted talent!!! %-6
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Postby stomperrob » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:20 pm

They mentioned on NFL Network yesterday that the owners are currently discussing a "three strikes" rule for players and that if instituted, once a playergets in trouble with the law 3 times, he will be banned from from the NFL. Apparently they are getting fed up with the black eye football is getting from all the miscreants constantly getting busted.
Maybe this will finally get the players attention. ;-D ;-D ;-D
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Postby Keyser_WV » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:32 pm

stomperrob wrote:They mentioned on NFL Network yesterday that the owners are currently discussing a "three strikes" rule for players and that if instituted, once a playergets in trouble with the law 3 times, he will be banned from from the NFL. Apparently they are getting fed up with the black eye football is getting from all the miscreants constantly getting busted.
Maybe this will finally get the players attention. ;-D ;-D ;-D


I would assume they would have to be convicted before it counted as a strike.

Chris Henry would have been banned in one year 8-o 8-o
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Postby steelerfan513 » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:43 pm

stomperrob wrote:They mentioned on NFL Network yesterday that the owners are currently discussing a "three strikes" rule for players and that if instituted, once a playergets in trouble with the law 3 times, he will be banned from from the NFL. Apparently they are getting fed up with the black eye football is getting from all the miscreants constantly getting busted.
Maybe this will finally get the players attention. ;-D ;-D ;-D


I like it. ;-D ;-D ;-D
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Postby dgan » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:11 pm

Keyser_WV wrote:
stomperrob wrote:They mentioned on NFL Network yesterday that the owners are currently discussing a "three strikes" rule for players and that if instituted, once a playergets in trouble with the law 3 times, he will be banned from from the NFL. Apparently they are getting fed up with the black eye football is getting from all the miscreants constantly getting busted.
Maybe this will finally get the players attention. ;-D ;-D ;-D


I would assume they would have to be convicted before it counted as a strike.

Chris Henry would have been banned in one year 8-o 8-o


Not necessarily. Just getting the bad press is enough to be fired from any other employer. Depending on the bargaining agreement, they may have to pay the dude his signing bonus, but they could still ban him, I think. Or perhaps suspend them until a verdict is reached, and if they are acquitted then the suspension is lifted.
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Postby sportsaddict » Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:14 pm

The Titans need to cut this guy. He is a great player, yes, that can't be disputed. But his off the field problems are just killing the Titans. If they do cut him, we all know someone else is going to pick him back up. And whoever picks him up will talk about how is a "changed man," how he is "ready to move on." Then he will cause more problems, and it will just be a never ending cycle. You just cant help guys like Pacman, they've been babied their whole lives and they don't know how to act. Its sad.
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Postby joelamosobadiah » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:42 pm

sportsaddict wrote:The Titans need to cut this guy. He is a great player, yes, that can't be disputed. But his off the field problems are just killing the Titans. If they do cut him, we all know someone else is going to pick him back up. And whoever picks him up will talk about how is a "changed man," how he is "ready to move on." Then he will cause more problems, and it will just be a never ending cycle. You just cant help guys like Pacman, they've been babied their whole lives and they don't know how to act. Its sad.


There is no way I see him getting straight up cut from the Titans. That would REALLY shock me. Problems or not.
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Postby The Lung » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:32 pm

From: http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=6146420

Drug Dealer's Recorded Calls Mention Pacman's Troubles

Adam "Pacman" Jones was at the scene of a triple shooting at a Las Vegas Strip Club a week ago and although police said he is only a witness there are allegations he knows the shooter and may have started the mêlée.

Exclusive conversations from a drug investigation revealed more into Jones' association with trouble.

In March 2006 Metro Police announced some major drug arrests. A lot of the evidence for the arrests was from conversations police had taped with different dealers. Although Jones faced no charges in connection with the investigation, his name was mentioned in the taped recordings.

In one of Metro's largest busts to date, the drug trafficking investigation netting nearly 2,000 pounds of drugs, nine major arrests and more than 20 vehicles; the most noticeable was a Cadillac linked to Jones.

Jones faced no charges in the drug investigation. The car wasn't registered to him and was apparently borrowed for a rap video.

Jones' buddy convicted drug dealer Darryl Moore was the center of the investigation and now his conversations may be very telling of Jones' own problems.

"We gotta slow down, man. We gotta get him focused on football, man. He's focused on too much other s****," Moore said.

NewsChannel 5 obtained wiretapped phone conversations between Moore and his friends. In one conversation he talked about Jones throwing his money into gambling, putting thousands of dollars on college games to make a quick buck.

Moore, a convicted felon now facing another round of hard time, actually worried Jones was spiraling out of control.

Moore said he cared about his friend and how all of his habit could affect his career.

"You know, I was talkin' to him the other day about smokin', and he was like ‘man, if I didn't smoke I couldn't take all the stress that I'm dealing with right now,'" Moore said.

Moore also talked about Titans Head Coach Jeff Fisher who he said visited Jones at home.

"Fisher's being as patient as a m*****f***** as he can. Fisher gotta win. Fisher trying to win...He ain't putting up with that s***," Moore said.

The Titans have said in the past they've talked to Jones. Lawyers and judges have certainly counseled him as well.

"He gotta concentrate on season...that ******* drug test coming up," he said. "We telling him he needed 33 days before he took his ******* test; dry-out, and he didn't...that's let me know right there that he ain't taking his ****** job serious."

Jones faced no charges in connection with the drug arrests. He has not been charged with anything in the Vegas incident.

However, Moore has been indicted and will face trial next month.

Titans management has not commented specifically on Jones future with the team except to say they have talked about it, will talk to Pacman and there is always the potential of letting him go.


I don't know how reliable testimony from a convicted felon is, but...
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Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:29 pm

The Lung wrote:From: http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=6146420

Drug Dealer's Recorded Calls Mention Pacman's Troubles

Adam "Pacman" Jones was at the scene of a triple shooting at a Las Vegas Strip Club a week ago and although police said he is only a witness there are allegations he knows the shooter and may have started the mêlée.

Exclusive conversations from a drug investigation revealed more into Jones' association with trouble.

In March 2006 Metro Police announced some major drug arrests. A lot of the evidence for the arrests was from conversations police had taped with different dealers. Although Jones faced no charges in connection with the investigation, his name was mentioned in the taped recordings.

In one of Metro's largest busts to date, the drug trafficking investigation netting nearly 2,000 pounds of drugs, nine major arrests and more than 20 vehicles; the most noticeable was a Cadillac linked to Jones.

Jones faced no charges in the drug investigation. The car wasn't registered to him and was apparently borrowed for a rap video.

Jones' buddy convicted drug dealer Darryl Moore was the center of the investigation and now his conversations may be very telling of Jones' own problems.

"We gotta slow down, man. We gotta get him focused on football, man. He's focused on too much other s****," Moore said.

NewsChannel 5 obtained wiretapped phone conversations between Moore and his friends. In one conversation he talked about Jones throwing his money into gambling, putting thousands of dollars on college games to make a quick buck.

Moore, a convicted felon now facing another round of hard time, actually worried Jones was spiraling out of control.

Moore said he cared about his friend and how all of his habit could affect his career.

"You know, I was talkin' to him the other day about smokin', and he was like ‘man, if I didn't smoke I couldn't take all the stress that I'm dealing with right now,'" Moore said.

Moore also talked about Titans Head Coach Jeff Fisher who he said visited Jones at home.

"Fisher's being as patient as a m*****f***** as he can. Fisher gotta win. Fisher trying to win...He ain't putting up with that s***," Moore said.

The Titans have said in the past they've talked to Jones. Lawyers and judges have certainly counseled him as well.

"He gotta concentrate on season...that ******* drug test coming up," he said. "We telling him he needed 33 days before he took his ******* test; dry-out, and he didn't...that's let me know right there that he ain't taking his ****** job serious."

Jones faced no charges in connection with the drug arrests. He has not been charged with anything in the Vegas incident.

However, Moore has been indicted and will face trial next month.

Titans management has not commented specifically on Jones future with the team except to say they have talked about it, will talk to Pacman and there is always the potential of letting him go.


I don't know how reliable testimony from a convicted felon is, but...


i actually heard this on the radio. It was amazing, the drug dealer actually had his head on his shoulders more than Pac Man. It was amazing to hear this
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Postby madaslives911 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:44 am

News Update: Wednesday, 02/28/07
Pac's publicist says he was beaten, robbed

LAS VEGAS - Adam "Pacman" Jones was robbed and beaten without provocation during an early morning strip club brawl that ended in the shooting of three people, the football star's publicist said Tuesday.

Jones didn't haul a trash bag full of singles into a strip club, didn't punch one of the dancers and doesn't know the shooter, publicist and eye witness Cheryl Moss told The Tennessean in the first statement from a member of the crew that accompanied Jones to the club.

Bouncers maced Jones' bodyguard, body slammed his stylist into
a cactus and choked the Titans cornerback, she said.

Moss' story varies widely from that of Minxx co-owner Robert Susnar, who says bouncers restrained the player after he hit a stripper and slammed her head into the stage. Susnar, who was not present during the melee, says a member of Jones' entourage later returned and shot a female patron and two bouncers, paralyzing one.

Police interviewed Jones Feb. 19, but have not named him a suspect or person of interest.

"He has made bad decisions in the past," Moss said. "But he's not a criminal."

With his daughter's first birthday just days away and his parents staying with him at Caesar's Palace, Jones didn't come to Vegas looking for trouble, Moss said.

He took his mother shopping, gambled a bit with his stepfather and competed in the finals of the Hip Hop Gaming League, a video game competition, she said. Throughout the weekend, he attended several parties, including the ill-fated fete late Sunday Feb. 18 and early Feb. 19 at Minxx.

Moss laughed at the term "entourage" to describe the seven people that followed Jones to the strip club. They included Moss, stylist Sadia Morrison, a bodyguard, Jones' personal assistant, a model friend and two other women.

"It was not just some around-the-way homeboys," she said.

She acknowledged that many more club customers dropped by Jones' booth to rub shoulders with the NFL star and have a drink, but says they weren't friends of his. Nobody wearing corn rows - the hairstyle police say the shooter wore - sat at their booth by the DJ stand, she said.

As for the plastic trash bag, Moss said the club ran out of singles so Jones went to get change from a stripper. Pacman got the plastic bag from the stripper who gave him change, Moss said.

Music producer Jermaine Dupri arranged for 40 strippers to gather on stage so the patrons like Jones and rapper Nelly could shower them with dollar bills in a practice termed "making it rain."

When there is more than one dancer on stage, protocol says management collects the money and divvies it up evenly between the dancers, Moss said.

One woman scooped up some cash, and a fight broke out that pitted one stripper against three others. Morrison, Jones' stylist, tried to pull the underdog stripper off stage to protect her and was drawn into the fracas.

During the distraction, Houston-based promoter and party organizer Chris Mitchell tried to snatch Jones' bag of money, but ran into the 5' 10" football player's considerably larger bodyguard who wouldn't let him have it, Moss said.

Spying the struggle, a club bouncer rushed in and maced the bodyguard. Bouncer and shooting victim Aaron Cudworth put a headlock on Jones, who was still recovering from shoulder surgery, until his eyes rolled back in his head, she said.

From there Moss said the fighting spun out of control with more bouncers joining the fray and roughing up Jones' friends and other patrons - anyone within "swinging distance."

Club staff say Morrison hit Cudworth on the head with a bottle of Dom Perignon. Moss disputed that claim. Instead, she said, Morrison was beaten repeatedly at the hands of club security. Several in her party faced racial slurs from staff, Moss said.

Morrison has been charged with battery with a deadly weapon, Moss said.

Club bouncers "were completely out of line," said Moss, who added Jones and Morrison were bleeding. "I was there. He was victimized. They kicked Pac's (rear end)."

There were too few security guards to monitor the wall to wall crowd in the club, and Minxx staff should have turned off the music and turned on the lights as soon as the fight broke out so they could identify the culprits, Moss said.

An eye witness who asked not to be named for fear of his safety said security did begin clearing out patrons with the lights on and music off once the fight broke out.

Moss said Jones and his seven friends were split up during the commotion. While she talked inside with a manager, Jones and his bodyguard waited for a taxi outside, she said.

Jones heard the shots that injured three people and left Tom Urbanski paralyzed from the waist down as the cab pulled away, according to Moss' story.

"It really bothers him that the guy got paralyzed," Moss said. "It really disturbs him. He's beside himself about this."


This case is really getting to be an entertaining one. :-D
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