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Postby confused_jake » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:10 am

I really like the signing, Welker is definitley Belichick's type of player, especially with his versatility.
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Postby dgan » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:13 am

confused_jake wrote:I really like the signing, Welker is definitley Belichick's type of player, especially with his versatility.


Yeah. He can return punts AND kickoffs! :-?

He'll probably be their leading receiver and make me look bad -- but if this is the impact player they are adding to the passing game, it's going to be another frustrating year for Brady.
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Postby confused_jake » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:19 am

dgan wrote:
confused_jake wrote:I really like the signing, Welker is definitley Belichick's type of player, especially with his versatility.


Yeah. He can return punts AND kickoffs! :-?

He'll probably be their leading receiver and make me look bad -- but if this is the impact player they are adding to the passing game, it's going to be another frustrating year for Brady.


Well i remember in one game where he even had a couple punts and kicked an extra point.
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Postby VaderFin » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:31 am

Give me the 2nd rounder. Welker is an ok player at best. IF Miami drafts Ginn they would have a much better option in the return game and have that extra 2nd rounder. We need picks desperately. 2nd rounder come on down!!
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Postby RocketsDWM » Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:54 am

dgan wrote:
confused_jake wrote:I really like the signing, Welker is definitley Belichick's type of player, especially with his versatility.


Yeah. He can return punts AND kickoffs! :-?

He'll probably be their leading receiver and make me look bad -- but if this is the impact player they are adding to the passing game, it's going to be another frustrating year for Brady.


It was a frustrating yr for Brady? :-?
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Postby The Lung » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:28 pm

From an NFL standpoint, I could see how both Miami and Pats fans are reacting to the news. Welker doesn't provide much of an impact to wins/losses, even on special teams, to warrant such a salary.

From a fantasy perspective, we have a huge sleeper here. If anybody was paying attention in the NFL playoffs, the Patriots made friggin' Jabbar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell relevant. During the regular season, even on a Miami team with horrible quarterbacking, Welker was fantasy relevant especially in point-per-reception leagues and leagues that rewards return yardage. At the end of the season:

  • In my PPR league (one point per catch) that does not award return yardage, Welker was the #40 WR.
  • In a standard league (no PPR) that awards 1 point per 20 return yards, Welker was the #29 WR.
  • In my league that offers BOTH PPR (0.5 point per catch) and return yardage, (1 point per 20 return yards) Welker was the #15 WR.
All 10 or 12-man leagues.

Just goes to show you that league settings can make a big difference. But in the right format (PPR and return yardage) Welker could have made a BIG difference for your fantasy team. At one point in the season Welker was the #3 WR in this format! Welker likely went undrafted in nearly all leagues and people were basically able to get a top 15 WR off the waiver wire. B-)
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Postby Felix the Cat » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:20 pm

I'm disappointed with this... simply because Welker (in Miami) was one of my top fantasy WR breakout candidates. Being with the Patriots reduces his fantasy value by a lot.
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Postby The Lung » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:08 pm

Felix the Cat wrote:I'm disappointed with this... simply because Welker (in Miami) was one of my top fantasy WR breakout candidates. Being with the Patriots reduces his fantasy value by a lot.


If there's no other free agent WR signing in New England, or high draft pick used on a marquee WR, then I disagree. I think Welker could be just as much a breakout candidate in New England.
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Postby sox 06 » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:10 pm

The Lung wrote:
Felix the Cat wrote:I'm disappointed with this... simply because Welker (in Miami) was one of my top fantasy WR breakout candidates. Being with the Patriots reduces his fantasy value by a lot.


If there's no other free agent WR signing in New England, or high draft pick used on a marquee WR, then I disagree. I think Welker could be just as much a breakout candidate in New England.

You would think that but Brady spreads the ball out so much, this might not be the case. They didn't have a marque WR last season and there wasn't any real clear cut #1 WR between Brown/Caldwell/Gaffney/Jackson. Until the Pats get someone of Branch/CJ/AJ stature, I think this will always be the case. Sure Wekler might have a spectacular game here and there but in the end, all of the WR will be pretty much the same.
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Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:13 pm

sox 06 wrote:
The Lung wrote:
Felix the Cat wrote:I'm disappointed with this... simply because Welker (in Miami) was one of my top fantasy WR breakout candidates. Being with the Patriots reduces his fantasy value by a lot.


If there's no other free agent WR signing in New England, or high draft pick used on a marquee WR, then I disagree. I think Welker could be just as much a breakout candidate in New England.

You would think that but Brady spreads the ball out so much, this might not be the case. They didn't have a marque WR last season and there wasn't any real clear cut #1 WR between Brown/Caldwell/Gaffney/Jackson. Until the Pats get someone of Branch/CJ/AJ stature, I think this will always be the case. Sure Wekler might have a spectacular game here and there but in the end, all of the WR will be pretty much the same.


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