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Postby Redskins Win » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:04 am

so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby knapplc » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:18 am

Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


It is retrievable by an IT guy. From what I remember, when you “delete” something from your trash can all the computer does is erase the “address” (not the right word, there’s something about a “B-Tree” that I really want to say but it’s been a while since I read up on this) of the item on your hard drive. Each bit of data has an “address” telling your PC where to find it on the hard drive. The “address” is a pretty small bit of code that is easily deleted, so that’s how they get rid of things.

In reality the item is still there and if they use a certain kind of software that scans all data on the HD they can find it, or at the least find pieces of it.

One way you can truly delete something is to over-write it, as in use that specific part of the hard drive for other data, thus rearranging the Ones and Zeros to a different pattern. That gets pretty tough to do with 60- or 80-Gig hard drives, though.
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Postby SniperShot » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:09 am

It's pretty much gone. I'm sure knapp is right and the address is stored in some sub temp folder in Windows but I don't know much about that.

I remember I used to have this recycle bin saver where even things you removed from it showed up there in the backup thing. That was probably a program someone wrote which takes advantage of that windows address thing knapp talked about. I forgot the name of the program but it came in handy when I got rid of some stuff I wanted later.
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Postby beanoX3 » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:16 am

Knapp is right. Only way to securely delete something is to overwrite it. There are a few programs that do that for you, although I've no idea how much they run for.
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby SwiperNoSwiping » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:24 am

Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


Hehe..What is it you are trying to remove? }:-) Porn? Evidence? Someone dipping their pen in the company ink? Come on RW. You can trust us.
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby killiansjmd » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:27 am

SwiperNoSwiping wrote:
Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


Hehe..What is it you are trying to remove? }:-) Porn? Evidence? Someone dipping their pen in the company ink? Come on RW. You can trust us.


I was thinking the same thing...what's he trying to get rid of???
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby Jimboozie » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:44 am

killiansjmd wrote:
SwiperNoSwiping wrote:
Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


Hehe..What is it you are trying to remove? }:-) Porn? Evidence? Someone dipping their pen in the company ink? Come on RW. You can trust us.


I was thinking the same thing...what's he trying to get rid of???


Nude pictures of Metroid. 8-o
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby Redskins Win » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:24 pm

Jimboozie wrote:
killiansjmd wrote:
SwiperNoSwiping wrote:
Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


Hehe..What is it you are trying to remove? }:-) Porn? Evidence? Someone dipping their pen in the company ink? Come on RW. You can trust us.


I was thinking the same thing...what's he trying to get rid of???


Nude pictures of Metroid. 8-o


funny, I would never get rid of those, i keep them in my special place. 8-o :-b

well tomorrow is my last day at work, and i want to clean all my little personal items, pics i've made for posting etc. what ever all non work related items to include cookies.

so another clean up question how do i get the items in the drop down of my IE to go away?
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby dream_017 » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:32 pm

Redskins Win wrote:
Jimboozie wrote:
killiansjmd wrote:
SwiperNoSwiping wrote:
Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


Hehe..What is it you are trying to remove? }:-) Porn? Evidence? Someone dipping their pen in the company ink? Come on RW. You can trust us.


I was thinking the same thing...what's he trying to get rid of???


Nude pictures of Metroid. 8-o


funny, I would never get rid of those, i keep them in my special place. 8-o :-b

well tomorrow is my last day at work, and i want to clean all my little personal items, pics i've made for posting etc. what ever all non work related items to include cookies.

so another clean up question how do i get the items in the drop down of my IE to go away?


Tools: Options
then do all of these
Delete cookies, delete files, clear history ;-D

I would ask ACS on the baseball side, I think he does this for a living :-?

You didn't think I would leave you without the link to him mentioning his job would you O:-)
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Re: Deleting items from PC

Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:12 pm

dream_017 wrote:
Redskins Win wrote:
Jimboozie wrote:
killiansjmd wrote:
SwiperNoSwiping wrote:
Redskins Win wrote:so if i delete and empty the can, is that stuff retrievable by an IT guy or is it gone forever?


Hehe..What is it you are trying to remove? }:-) Porn? Evidence? Someone dipping their pen in the company ink? Come on RW. You can trust us.


I was thinking the same thing...what's he trying to get rid of???


Nude pictures of Metroid. 8-o


funny, I would never get rid of those, i keep them in my special place. 8-o :-b

well tomorrow is my last day at work, and i want to clean all my little personal items, pics i've made for posting etc. what ever all non work related items to include cookies.

so another clean up question how do i get the items in the drop down of my IE to go away?


Tools: Options
then do all of these
Delete cookies, delete files, clear history ;-D

I would ask ACS on the baseball side, I think he does this for a living :-?

You didn't think I would leave you without the link to him mentioning his job would you O:-)


yeah, he's my go to tech guy, but he hasnt posted in awhile :-?
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