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Postby knapplc » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:34 pm

treat24 wrote:
joelamosobadiah wrote:At first I was thinking they might have a case here, but after reading the article, I think the punishment was just.


if it was a simple mooning the punishment was just... now i think there should be criminal charges... he's 18


Yeah, I have to say that after reading that full article I am coming around to thinking this kid got what he deserved. That flagrant of an exposure goes far beyond "mooning." It was ridiculous, and being transferred fits.
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Postby treat24 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:47 pm

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joelamosobadiah wrote:At first I was thinking they might have a case here, but after reading the article, I think the punishment was just.


if it was a simple mooning the punishment was just... now i think there should be criminal charges... he's 18


Yeah, I have to say that after reading that full article I am coming around to thinking this kid got what he deserved. That flagrant of an exposure goes far beyond "mooning." It was ridiculous, and being transferred fits.


What I am annoyed by is that the parents and kid think that it matters if he did it for 15 seconds or if he did it for 5 seconds... seriously... come on
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Postby joelamosobadiah » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:37 pm

"She opened the door enough for me to talk to her," he said. "And I did put my foot in the door to make sure she could hear me. There was no argumentation. There was a pleading on my part."

He said of Allen's description: "It was a bit of an exaggeration. The words that they used make it seem like a lot worse than I intended it to be."

He and his parents dispute that the act took 15 seconds. "The whole pulling down, spreading, pulling pants back up: five seconds," Taylor said.


OK, here are the major problems I see with this.

First he says that she barely opens the door. So little that it is to the point he sticks his foot in to keep her from shutting it.

Well, with his foot stuck in the door, how is he going to "pull, spread, and pull up"? :-?

OK, so let's assume that he managed all this or he removed his foot (and the teacher didn't just shut the door when he did so) and was able to do this.

The next question is how is he saying that "The whole pulling down, spreading, pulling pants back up" took only five seconds. OK, not to get too graphic, but if he does this, how is he going to do the entire "process" in less than 5 seconds. Hardly worth doing it in the first place. If so, that's not a moon, that's barely a flash.

So yeah, his story doesn't have a lick of truth to it IMO. Also the fact that he denied it and then admitted it, but said it was nowhere near where the teacher said it was. Yeah, just doesn't add up. :-?
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Postby Twisted Sister » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:29 pm

I just hoped for her sake... he wipes well... :-P :-P
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Postby dgan » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:38 pm

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treat24 wrote:hope the kid loses... actions have consequences... sounds like a punk kid anyway... keep the little punk expelled

treat24 wrote:kids have to learn lessons... I don't want his lesson to be "sue to get what you want"


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It will be more detrimental to this kid's future if they allow him back.


Not true. That lesson is taight everywhere, not just here and what most people don't know is that when you sue for something stupid 90% of the time it is thrown out and you have to pay the court costs


The lesson that the kid will learn is that if you cry enough, bitch enough, complain enough, whine enough, etc. you can get your way. The school needs to stand fast with this one and teach the kid what his parents have neglected. Every choice comes with a consequence.


Yes, but the consequence does not fit the crime.


Perhaps not, but the new "crime" does not warrant a lawsuit. You are just exchanging one excessive reaction with another.

The kid did something disrespectful, and since the people in authority do not want to deal with it, they call the shots. Someday when he is the boss and calling the shots, he can hire all the mooners he wants.

If he thinks it is excessive, apologize to the the teacher, go to the school board and present your case to be reinstated. If they don't go for it, bite the bullet and move on. It's not like they are denying him an education. They're just giving it to him at a different location...hardly worth suing them over that. What exactly did they do wrong? Hurt his feelings by disciplining him too hard? Give me a break.
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Postby joelamosobadiah » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:03 pm

dgan wrote:
Perhaps not, but the new "crime" does not warrant a lawsuit. You are just exchanging one excessive reaction with another.

The kid did something disrespectful, and since the people in authority do not want to deal with it, they call the shots. Someday when he is the boss and calling the shots, he can hire all the mooners he wants.

If he thinks it is excessive, apologize to the the teacher, go to the school board and present your case to be reinstated. If they don't go for it, bite the bullet and move on. It's not like they are denying him an education. They're just giving it to him at a different location...hardly worth suing them over that. What exactly did they do wrong? Hurt his feelings by disciplining him too hard? Give me a break.


My guess is it is more about not playing baseball, but yeah, I agree with you.
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Postby treat24 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:49 am

joelamosobadiah wrote:
dgan wrote:
Perhaps not, but the new "crime" does not warrant a lawsuit. You are just exchanging one excessive reaction with another.

The kid did something disrespectful, and since the people in authority do not want to deal with it, they call the shots. Someday when he is the boss and calling the shots, he can hire all the mooners he wants.

If he thinks it is excessive, apologize to the the teacher, go to the school board and present your case to be reinstated. If they don't go for it, bite the bullet and move on. It's not like they are denying him an education. They're just giving it to him at a different location...hardly worth suing them over that. What exactly did they do wrong? Hurt his feelings by disciplining him too hard? Give me a break.


My guess is it is more about not playing baseball, but yeah, I agree with you.


i agree, this seems like it is more about the kid wanting to play baseball and getting what he wants... funny thing is... the school could EASILY prolong this lawsuit for 2-3 months making it a moot point... that's what I would do...
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:47 am

treat24 wrote:i agree, this seems like it is more about the kid wanting to play baseball and getting what he wants... funny thing is... the school could EASILY prolong this lawsuit for 2-3 months making it a moot point... that's what I would do...


Well, I wouldn't do that intentionally. I'd want to see the right thing done.

EDIT: Messed up quote. :*)
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Postby treat24 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:53 am

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treat24 wrote:i agree, this seems like it is more about the kid wanting to play baseball and getting what he wants... funny thing is... the school could EASILY prolong this lawsuit for 2-3 months making it a moot point... that's what I would do...[/quote]

Well, I wouldn't do that intentionally. I'd want to see the right thing done.


yeah, i wouldn't do it either... I'm just saying they could... I had a disorderly conduct about 5 or 6 years ago (a guy punched my buddy at a bar so I punched the guy and he fell to the floor, kicked him on the floor too :-t , I'm definitely not proud of it. The guy was drunk and hit my buddy, I reacted) and that disorderly case took 8 months to even get to court... things can get prolonged a very long time for little or no reason...
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:10 am

treat24 wrote:
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treat24 wrote:i agree, this seems like it is more about the kid wanting to play baseball and getting what he wants... funny thing is... the school could EASILY prolong this lawsuit for 2-3 months making it a moot point... that's what I would do...[/quote]

Well, I wouldn't do that intentionally. I'd want to see the right thing done.


yeah, i wouldn't do it either... I'm just saying they could... I had a disorderly conduct about 5 or 6 years ago (a guy punched my buddy at a bar so I punched the guy and he fell to the floor, kicked him on the floor too :-t , I'm definitely not proud of it. The guy was drunk and hit my buddy, I reacted) and that disorderly case took 8 months to even get to court... things can get prolonged a very long time for little or no reason...


But you said "that's what I would do". :-b

I hear what you're saying though. ;-D
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