moonhead wrote:is it still the 1950s? this is ridiculous. so is the mentality of some people. i'd tell them to grow up but they're older than my parents.
treat24 wrote:i say dresses aren't revealing enough... (as long as they're 18) ...
who cares what they wear... geesh... as long as you can't see naughty parts... go for it...
Obviously neither of you are parents, and especially not parents of girls.
I don't have a daughter either, but I would imagine I'd be very particular about what mine wore. We were all high school boys at one point or another and know how they think and what they think about.
In the '50s a guy had to wine and dine a lady to see parts of her that are out in the open nowadays. Now a guy just has to go to prom. Thanks to parents a boy has a much better chance of getting some.
no one wants their daughter to have sex. ever. but they are going to. like it or not. if they are prepared, and equipped with the knowledge to keep them safe, hopefully provided by the parents, then that's the best you can hope for. i'm just not naive to the way girls are either. i know i was a high school boy, but generally it takes two to tango. and a freaking dress is not going to keep her off her back. the teachers should just be glad that the kids weren't on drugs.
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I don't think not being a parent of a girl precludes me from having an opinion on the subject, as it pertains to public schools.
To me, it seems arbitrary, and pretty cruel--if it was previewed. If these girls followed the rules, then were turned down, I would be spitting nails if I was a parent. Prom ain't cheap.
I just think that sometimes there is a power trip that comes with some school teachers and administrators. And I think its understandable, as you have had to deal with a bunch of wiseacres etc for years. And while I think female style has gotten very slutty, and I wouldn't tolerate it on some day-to-day basis, let's face it, fancy events, especially dances are charged with sexuality, and the clothing has always reflected that.
I think there is a difference between prom and homecoming, etc. And yes, while we all know what boys are like, it seems weird to me in a lot of ways to use that as a basis for argument. Because boys are uncontrollable, YOU can't do what you want? While a male, and I do know how we areat that age, its just not a sufficient reason.
In fact, the only reason I see for this, is that it makes male teachers uncomfortable. And that has merit in the day-to-day operations of a school, but not at a fancy dance paid for by the students, an event that isn't about learning, but coming of age.
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moonhead wrote:no one wants their daughter to have sex. ever. but they are going to. like it or not.
Meh...
Appreciate the perspective, Moon, but it's not always the case. Call me a prude, but I know alot of women who waited. My wife (and she is HOT) , my sister, my mom. And my 17 year old beautiful daughter wears a purity ring and is committed to her future husband, whoever that is. There is a growing movement with girls (and some guys as well, believe it or not) to saving themselves for marriage.
My two cents.
To your credit... most don't wait and I agree with your position on
being safe and responsible. But it's not the best you can hope for.
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boo this story i'd like to see this dress in question, because i'm guessing it isnt all that bad except this girl has some big cans causing her cups to runneth over...big deal
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This is going to be a complicated issue because there will be some people who say it is the parents' responsibility to monitor what their kids wear, and I agree. But there is also the issue that not all parents have the same ideas about what is appropriate (and what's even sadder is that some just don't care). Is it fair to the parents that take their responsibility seriously to let the kids who have lax parents wear whatever they want? I don't think so, so now you are back at square one with school officials dictating what these kids can and can't wear to the prom.
It's great to say that people need to be better parents and teachers shouldn't have to worry about this, but that's an unreasonable expectation to have. School officials are role models and have a big influence on our kids, and I would rather them err on the side of being too strict than being too lenient. At least the teachers care enough to try to mold the students into respectable human beings.
onnestabe wrote:This is going to be a complicated issue because there will be some people who say it is the parents' responsibility to monitor what their kids wear, and I agree. But there is also the issue that not all parents have the same ideas about what is appropriate (and what's even sadder is that some just don't care). Is it fair to the parents that take their responsibility seriously to let the kids who have lax parents wear whatever they want? I don't think so, so now you are back at square one with school officials dictating what these kids can and can't wear to the prom.
It's great to say that people need to be better parents and teachers shouldn't have to worry about this, but that's an unreasonable expectation to have. School officials are role models and have a big influence on our kids, and I would rather them err on the side of being too strict than being too lenient. At least the teachers care enough to try to mold the students into respectable human beings.
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