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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:16 am

Marines Banning Some Tattoos

Prohibit Large Markings Below The Elbow Or Knee

(AP) OCEANSIDE, Calif. Five tattooed skulls stretch from Marine Cpl. Jeremy Slaton's right elbow to his wrist, spelling out the word “Death.” He planned to add a tattoo spelling “Life” on his left arm, but that's on hold because of a Marine policy taking effect Sunday.

The Marines are banning any new, extra-large tattoos below the elbow or the knee, saying such body art is harmful to the Corps' spit-and-polish image.

Slaton and other grunts are not pleased.

“I guess I'll get the other half later,” grumbled the 24-year-old leatherneck from Eden Prairie, Minn. “It's kind of messed up.”

For many Marines, getting a tattoo is a rite of passage. They commonly get their forearms inscribed to remember fallen comrades, combat tours or loved ones, and often ask for exotic designs that incorporate the Marine motto, Semper Fi, or “Always faithful.”

Dozens of Marines from Camp Pendleton, the West Coast's biggest Marine base, made last-minute trips to tattoo parlors in nearby Oceanside before the ban kicked in.

“This is something I love to do,” said Cpl. David Nadrchal, 20, of Pomona, who made an appointment to get an Iraqi flag and his deployment dates etched onto his lower leg. “The fact I can't put something on my body that I want — it's a big thing to tell me I can't do that.”

Nadrchal said he is unsure whether he will re-enlist: “There's all these little things. They are slowly chipping away at us.”

Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James T. Conway announced the policy change last week.

“Some Marines have taken the liberty of tattooing themselves to a point that is contrary to our professional demeanor and the high standards America has come to expect from us,” he said. “I believe tattoos of an excessive nature do not represent our traditional values.”

The ban is aimed primarily at “sleeve” tattoos, the large and often elaborate designs on the biceps and forearms of many Marines. Similar designs on the lower legs will be forbidden as well. So will very large tattoos on the upper arm, if they are visible when a Marine wears his workout T-shirt. Small, individual tattoos will still be allowed on the arms and legs. (The Marines already ban them on the hands.)

Marines already tattooed are exempt from the ban but cannot add to their designs; anyone caught with fresh ink in the wrong places could be barred from re-enlistment or face disciplinary action. Getting a prohibited tattoo could constitute a violation of a lawful order, punishable by up to two years in prison and a dishonorable discharge, Marine spokesman 1st Lt. Brian Donnelly said.

Unit commanders must photograph and document sleeve tattoos to ensure Marines do not add to their ink.

The Marines and the other branches of the military already ban tattoos that could be offensive or disruptive, such as images that are sexist, vulgar, gang-related or extremist.

The Army, which has been doing most of the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and is struggling to fill its ranks, actually relaxed its tattoo restrictions last year. Soldiers can now get ink on the back of their hands and the lower back of the neck.

The Navy last year decreed that tattoos visible while in short-sleeve uniform cannot be larger than the wearer's hand. The Air Force says tattoos should be covered up if they are bigger than one-quarter the size of the exposed body part.

Tattoo artist Jerry Layton at the Body Temple Tattoo Studio in Oceanside said he was booked up with Marines rushing to beat the deadline.

“These are guys that are dying in the war,” Layton said. “They can fight, but they can't get a tattoo? It's ridiculous.”


(© 2007 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. )
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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:13 am

Dumb thing to do

I would love to hear Roys opinion
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Postby Metroid » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:49 am

Thats BS, its just a matter of time before they ban tats all together.:-[

In defense of the military though once you sign up you are property of the U.S. government, still it's pretty lame. :-?

Also if you were the enemy which would be scarier bearing down on you, a squeaky clean well groomed guy or a tatted up dood with skulls and fire on his forearms?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:50 am

Metroid wrote:Thats BS, its just a matter of time before they ban tats all together.:-[

In defense of the military though once you sign up you are property of the U.S. government, still it's pretty lame. :-?

Also if you were the enemy which would be scarier bearing down on you, a squeaky clean well groomed guy or a tatted up dood with skulls and fire on his forearms?


speaking of tats cough done any drawing lately cough
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Postby sox 06 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:52 am

I think they should be allowed to have tattoos as long as they aren't visable.
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Postby Metroid » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:53 am

deerayfan072 wrote:
Metroid wrote:Thats BS, its just a matter of time before they ban tats all together.:-[

In defense of the military though once you sign up you are property of the U.S. government, still it's pretty lame. :-?

Also if you were the enemy which would be scarier bearing down on you, a squeaky clean well groomed guy or a tatted up dood with skulls and fire on his forearms?


speaking of tats cough done any drawing lately cough


Ahhh man.... no I'm sorry I haven't done any. All I've got is the same excuses I always have. :-b

Has joel done anything for you yet? :-?
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Postby Dolfin99 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:06 am

Yeah, I do not like the new rule either. Like other services, there should be regulations concerning tats below the elbow and knee, but a ban is not the way to go.

Having tats has no effect on the way we work, fight, or serve the people of this great country. As far as tarnishing the image of the Marine Corps, I think that is crap as well. The image most people have of Marines is in Dress Blues (this is our best dress). Guess what???? In this uniform, you cannot see below your elbow or knee.


Like you said, once we sign up, we belong to the US Govt. For instance, when I was in Hawaii, a friend of mine was given Non-Judicial-Punishment for having to miss work due to a severe sunburn. The punishment stated "Destruction to Government Property".

With that said, there are many other ways that they could control my life....but they don't.
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:33 am

danielrp wrote:For instance, when I was in Hawaii, a friend of mine was given Non-Judicial-Punishment for having to miss work due to a severe sunburn. The punishment stated "Destruction to Government Property".


That's great. :-b !+) ;-D
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Postby Metroid » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:15 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:
danielrp wrote:For instance, when I was in Hawaii, a friend of mine was given Non-Judicial-Punishment for having to miss work due to a severe sunburn. The punishment stated "Destruction to Government Property".


That's great. :-b !+) ;-D


Yeah thats hilarious but really mess up too. :-b
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Postby joelamosobadiah » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:41 pm

Metroid wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
Metroid wrote:Thats BS, its just a matter of time before they ban tats all together.:-[

In defense of the military though once you sign up you are property of the U.S. government, still it's pretty lame. :-?

Also if you were the enemy which would be scarier bearing down on you, a squeaky clean well groomed guy or a tatted up dood with skulls and fire on his forearms?


speaking of tats cough done any drawing lately cough


Ahhh man.... no I'm sorry I haven't done any. All I've got is the same excuses I always have. :-b

Has joel done anything for you yet? :-?


Nope. I couldn't get anything that looked good. !+)

Working from scratch is NOT my thing apparently.
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