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Re: kickers

Postby mbuser » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:43 am

teams who led the league in kicker fantasy points (based on yahoo defaults), and how they did the following season

2002 -- Atlanta (151) -- 93 (26th)
2003 -- St. Louis (179) -- 100 (23rd)
2004 -- New England (152) -- 105 (23rd)
2005 -- Arizona (174) -- 125 (8th)
2006 -- Chicago (155) -- ???
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Re: kickers

Postby killiansjmd » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:50 am

If league rules mandate that you must draft a kicker then I always wait to the last round like the other have said. There never that big of a difference point wise at the end of the season between the top 15-20 kickers.
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Re: kickers

Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:18 am

Unless the league rules require it, I never draft a kicker of a defense... They're too easy to play off the wire to waste a draft pick on them... You're better off taking a sleeper RB or WR and waiting 'til the day before your season starts to pick up a Kicker and Defense off the wire...
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Re: kickers

Postby jmog » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:39 am

If you are in a league with strict roster/draft requirements like mine, then wait until the very end for kickers.

My league only allows 1 free WW/FA move, every one after that starts costing money ($2 then $4 then $6 and so on).

So, in order for us to not be forced to use a FA move on bye weeks we have to draft 2 Ks and 2 DSTs. We also go 20 rounds with 5 RBs, 3 QBs, 6 WRs and 2 TEs.

Now, where do I draft my 2 Ks in 20 rounds? Usually rounds 18-20. I will onloy jump up to round 18 to take my first if there is a "good" one sitting there.

I also take my 2 defenses in the 16-18 rounds. I never will use a 10-15 pick on a defense like many guys do to get the Chicagos or the Baltimores of the defense world so once they are gone I'm relegated to choosing defenses with the "best" schedule (play the weakest offenses). At that point they will be available in the late rounds, no doubt.

Choose all of your offensive players before you choose any DST or K.

For instance, last year I got guys like Maurice Jones Drew and Jon Kitna in the 2 rounds just before my Ks and DSTs. Those guys started for me at times last season and they were drafted in the 15th and 16th rounds.
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Re: kickers

Postby Free Bagel » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:59 pm

mbuser wrote:teams who led the league in kicker fantasy points (based on yahoo defaults), and how they did the following season

2002 -- Atlanta (151) -- 93 (26th)
2003 -- St. Louis (179) -- 100 (23rd)
2004 -- New England (152) -- 105 (23rd)
2005 -- Arizona (174) -- 125 (8th)
2006 -- Chicago (155) -- ???


Yep, good stats.

I wish I had saved the stats from that article I wrote a few years ago back when people still thought drafting a kicker early was actually a legitimate strategy (luckily it appears everyone has finally come around), but the gist of it was that a top 5 kicker is much more likely to finish outside the top 20 the next year than he is to finish back in the top 5.
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Re: kickers

Postby poopscoop » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:15 pm

It is all about outscoring others in your position. Take a look at these projections:

http://www.ffauthority.com/modules/ff/

Notice the tiers. There are 10 kickers in tier #1, that is there are 10 kicers all within 20 points of eachother. For TEs that 4 tiers, WRs there are three tiers for the top 10 players. RBs there are 5 tiers for the top 10 players. 2 tiers for QBs. Using where the tiers lay you can place a "value" on positions. Kickers should not be drafted unless your rules require you to!
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Re: kickers

Postby Tsizzle » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:27 pm

I usually go for a kicker in the late second or early third.......



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Re: kickers

Postby whodey#9 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:44 pm

people draft kickers? :-D B-)
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Re: kickers

Postby mbuser » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:30 pm

Free Bagel wrote:
mbuser wrote:teams who led the league in kicker fantasy points (based on yahoo defaults), and how they did the following season

2002 -- Atlanta (151) -- 93 (26th)
2003 -- St. Louis (179) -- 100 (23rd)
2004 -- New England (152) -- 105 (23rd)
2005 -- Arizona (174) -- 125 (8th)
2006 -- Chicago (155) -- ???


Yep, good stats.

I wish I had saved the stats from that article I wrote a few years ago back when people still thought drafting a kicker early was actually a legitimate strategy (luckily it appears everyone has finally come around), but the gist of it was that a top 5 kicker is much more likely to finish outside the top 20 the next year than he is to finish back in the top 5.

i had those numbers handy because i happened to be working on a column regarding kickers and the draft

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Re: kickers

Postby RJ24VC15 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:44 pm

Last round.

I'd rather have a middle type kicker then have a top kicker and have to use a roster spot on a backup backup for bye weeks.
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