Whether he's innocent or not, if he's still going to night clubs while his NFL career is hanging in the balance and he's supposed to be on his best behavior, the man is beyond idiocy. Even if he deservedly got in trouble in the first place, just lie-low. A year's worth of nights out at clubs are not worth the millions of dollars that will come from playing in the NFL, especially with that level of talent.
Yeah, this story is all over the place now. It seems like he wasn't directly involved, but some of his "crew" was. The guy is unbelievable. No matter how little involvement he had, I think the commish is going to really lay the hammer down. It appears this guy will never get it.
Edit: now he's saying he wasn't even there, they have the wrong "Jones". If this is true, then he deserves a big apology.
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Yeh, it sounds like he was involved in the original confrontation at the bar but was not present at the shootout. Still doesn't bode well for him - be interesting to see if Goodell goes the "guilt by association" route and tells Pacman that maybe going to the bar with armed gunmen is not the best career choice!
Police Search For NFL Star After DeKalb Strip Club Shooting
POSTED: 6:49 am EDT June 18, 2007 UPDATED: 12:07 pm EDT June 18, 2007
DECATUR, Ga. -- Police are searching for troubled NFL player Pacman Jones after a shooting outside a DeKalb County strip club.
The incident started at Club Blaze on Moreland Avenue.
Witnesses told police that Jones became angry when a group of men approached a woman with him and asked her for a dance. The woman was not a dancer at the club.
Jones became upset and threatened the men, according to the witnesses.
That group told police they left the club and were driving away, but were followed by several armed men.
Police said it appears both groups opened fire, leaving one SUV riddled with bullet holes.
One person was injured by flying debris during the shooting.
Officer Ariel Toledo said Jones was not present when the shots were fired.
"We believe he knows some of his entourage who were involved in the shooting," Toledo said. "On himself, we do not have any charges on him. He wasn't there when the shooting occurred."
Manny Arora, Jones' attorney, said he was trying to find out what had happened from the police, but he understood Jones was sought only as a witness to the incident.
Jones attended Westlake High School in Atlanta.
Last week, Jones, a star defensive back with the Tennessee Titans, accepted a one-year suspension from the NFL after a meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
Jones was suspended after ten encounters with police and five arrests since he was drafted in 2005.
A case in Las Vegas is still pending. It involves a fight and shooting at a strip club during the NBA All-Star weekend that left one person paralyzed.
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maddog60 wrote:Whether he's innocent or not, if he's still going to night clubs while his NFL career is hanging in the balance and he's supposed to be on his best behavior, the man is beyond idiocy. Even if he deservedly got in trouble in the first place, just lie-low. A year's worth of nights out at clubs are not worth the millions of dollars that will come from playing in the NFL, especially with that level of talent.
Agreed. He is in line for a lifetime ban, whether he pulled the trigger or not.
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Another strip club clouds Pacman Jones' future Atlanta police want to talk to him about argument, shooting
By JESSICA HOPP Staff Writer
It isn't clear whether Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones violated the terms of the suspension laid out by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell by being mentioned in an investigation into an Atlanta shooting.
No charges have been filed against Jones in the incident that occurred early Monday, and league spokesman Greg Aiello said it was "premature" for the league to comment on how the situation could affect Jones' suspension.
Jones was suspended for the 2007 season in early April for a series of incidents involving the law.
"We are looking into it," Aiello said Monday. "We don't know what the facts are at this point."
The suspension included a possible reduction to 10 games if Jones met the stipulations provided by Goodell, which included having "no further adverse involvement with law enforcement."
Whether the latest incident qualifies as a violation of those terms is difficult to determine.
"There's no handbook," said Randy Cross, a former NFL player and an NFL analyst for CBS. "There's no published criteria. The only criteria is what was laid down in a private meeting between him and the commissioner and those are probably the only two people on the planet who know what that criteria is."
Lawyer: He wasn't there
Although not a suspect, Jones was being sought for questioning by DeKalb County police after a verbal altercation inside Club Blaze, an Atlanta-area strip club, allegedly led to a shooting a few blocks away from the club.
Jones' Atlanta-based attorney, Manny Arora, said Jones was not at the scene of the shooting but will cooperate with the police investigation.
"Adam had nothing to do with it," Arora said. "It wasn't him. It wasn't friends who were with him. It wasn't his car. Nothing. This is an unrelated group of people to us."
Titans Coach Jeff Fisher, who was at the Titans annual charity golf tournament Monday, distanced himself from the matter.
"I don't know whether it's true or not, but to me I have moved on," Fisher said. "If it's true it's Pac's issue. If it's not true it's Pac's issue. It's no longer our issue. We have moved on and we will wait to see what happens."
Shots fired from cars
A news release issued by DeKalb County police said Jones, his friends and a second party of three men were involved in an argument over a woman at the strip club.
After the argument, the three men told an off-duty officer who was working a part-time job at Club Blaze about what had occurred. The men reportedly said they did not feel safe to leave, and they were advised to wait until Jones left.
Jones left in a black Escalade, and the rest of his party left in a green Dodge Charger and a black Pontiac Grand Prix. While the other men were waiting at a red light, two vehicles said to be similar to those of Jones' acquaintances pulled alongside the car, and shots were fired.
The driver returned fire.
Jones wasn't at shooting
Jones is not thought to have been present at the site of the shooting, according to Keisha Williams, Deputy Director of Community, Media and Administrative Affairs for the DeKalb Police.
Although no charges had been filed against Jones, Williams said investigators believe he may know something about the others involved, which is why they want to question him.
The incident occurred six days after Jones dropped his appeal of his yearlong suspension.
"With all the scrutiny going on with Adam I would certainly encourage him to avoid those situations, but he's a grown man and he makes his own decisions," Arora said.
"To decide to go to these places may not be the most moral decision, but there is nothing illegal about it and that doesn't mean you are responsible for anything illegal that may happen during the night when you are there."
NFL watchers have say
Jones is expected to return to Nashville today, which marks the beginning of the Titans' June organized team activities. However, due to the terms of Jones' suspension he will not be allowed to participate in the practices at Baptist Sports Park.
"Most likely he'll be there," Arora said. "I told him to go about his business. I will deal with police and if he needs to deal with them he can come down or fly down."
Williams said that because Jones is not a suspect in the case, the police interview could be done by phone.
As word of Jones' latest involvement with police circulated on Monday, many local and national NFL experts weighed in on the topic of Jones' continued involvement with the law and how that would affect his future.
"He continues to make poor choices and put himself in bad situations and he has not learned his lesson," said former Titans President Jeff Diamond, who now does a radio show on local station WNFN-FM.
"He hasn't changed and apparently he is unable to change. He can't make the right decisions, and I have a very hard time seeing him back on the field this year."
As for possible ramifications beyond 2007, Diamond said it is "probably too early to say."
"He's young. Maybe at some point he'll get it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't," Diamond said.