Santana Moss - Bad year Good year Theory

[Azrael]

I've just never felt comfortable drafting guys like S. Moss and Coles.

[Munboy]

I would be happy to take Moss this year if he could essentially win three - four games for me from the #3 WR slot.

I dont know what kind of league you'd be in to be able to get him as a WR3. Maybe if you traded for him or something, I don't know. Certainly not drafting him in that position.

Anyways, I had moss the year before and he did alright for me, so I got him again last year and

I got sick of him and benched him the game he had something like near 200 yards and 3 TDs.

I put him back in the rotation and he did squat.

He'd have to fall to me as a WR2 or I'm not getting him.

[skibrett15]

I would be happy to take Moss this year if he could essentially win three - four games for me from the #3 WR slot.

I dont know what kind of league you'd be in to be able to get him as a WR3. Maybe if you traded for him or something, I don't know. Certainly not drafting him in that position.

Anyways, I had moss the year before and he did alright for me, so I got him again last year and

I got sick of him and benched him the game he had something like near 200 yards and 3 TDs.

I put him back in the rotation and he did squat.

He'd have to fall to me as a WR2 or I'm not getting him.

Draft 2 RBs and 3 WRs in the first 5 rounds. WR3.

[VHawk15]

I would be happy to take Moss this year if he could essentially win three - four games for me from the #3 WR slot.

I hope you're in an eight team league, beacause currently Santana is being taken as the 22nd WR in the late 5th round.

[FF Newbie]

Moss' ADP is in the 6th round on the sites I've seen. You can easily get him as a #3 WR if you don't take a QB or TE early.

[VHawk15]

Moss' ADP is in the 6th round on the sites I've seen. You can easily get him as a #3 WR if you don't take a QB or TE early.

Antsports has him at 5.08. Where have you seen him with an ADP of the 6th?

And sure, it is possible to get almost any WR as your WR3 if you draft three receivers in the early rounds. However, I don't think it would be advisable to draft three receivers in the first five or six rounds, given standard starting requirements.

The fact is that the WR22 is not going to be the WR3 for very many fantasy teams.

[FF Newbie]

I stand corrected on Moss' ADP. I was going by memory and thought it was 6.04, but you're right, it's 5.08 (on Antsports). That's still a WR3 for teams that draft 3 WRs in the first 5-6 rounds (and Moss will fall to the 6th round quite often). The 22nd-ranked WR can easily be a WR3 because there will always be teams that draft a QB, TE or RB3 before their WR2. It's not like every single team takes exactly 2 WRs in the first 5-6 rounds. Some will take just 1 and others will take 3.

[VHawk15]

I stand corrected on Moss' ADP. I was going by memory and thought it was 6.04, but you're right, it's 5.08 (on Antsports). That's still a WR3 for teams that draft 3 WRs in the first 5-6 rounds (and Moss will fall to the 6th round quite often). The 22nd-ranked WR can easily be a WR3 because there will always be teams that draft a QB, TE or RB3 before their WR2. It's not like every single team takes exactly 2 WRs in the first 5-6 rounds. Some will take just 1 and others will take 3.

Sure, it is possible, however, for most teams, Santana will be a WR2 given his ADP. The WR22 is by definition a WR2 and picking three WR's in the first five rounds is usually not a common draft strategy. Thus, Santana must be treated as a WR2 and we must expect WR2 numbers from him.

[FF Newbie]

Sure, it is possible, however, for most teams, Santana will be a WR2 given his ADP. The WR22 is by definition a WR2 and picking three WR's in the first five rounds is usually not a common draft strategy. Thus, Santana must be treated as a WR2 and we must expect WR2 numbers from him.

Yeah, I disagree. He'll be a WR2 more often than a WR3, but he'll be a WR3 on plenty of teams. The #22 WR isn't a clear-cut WR2. He's a borderline WR2/WR3. Attaching a hard "WR2" label to a player doesn't make sense. Housh and Driver are the #13 and #14 WRs on Antsports, so they would be "WR2s" also if you look at it that way. But I certainly wouldn't expect Moss to equal their production if I take him a round and a half later just because he's also a "WR2." I would expect his production to be much closer to that of Braylon Edwards and Darrell Jackson who are WRs #25 and #26, i.e. "WR3s." If you draft Moss somewhere around his ADP, you should expect low-end WR2 or high-end WR3 numbers. Many, many fantasy teams will have him as their 3rd WR this year, so I don't have a problem with discussing him in those terms.

[VHawk15]

This is really a nonsensical discussion. Obviously I'm not saying that since both Driver and Santana will be WR2's on most fantasy teams, that they will post indentical stats. My comments were in response to busby, who said "I would be happy to take Moss this year if he could essentially win three - four games for me from the #3 WR slot."

I am only saying that at the WR22 spot, fantasy owners cannot take for granted that they will be able to grab Santana as a WR3 with upside. In reality, he will most likely be an incredibly inconsistent WR2.