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Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby Warpigs » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:36 pm

Have an interesting issue in the Cafe Challenge league (of course we're in the middle of baseball season). There is a trade pending between two of the baseball cafe members. Pinch Hitters (kentx12), who is in last place, and Mooktacular (Mookie4ever) second place in the league and highest FBC in the standings). Pinch Hitters give up Cole Hamels, Grady Sizemore and Brendan Harris to Mookie for Edgar Renteria, Jack Cust and Sean Marshall. I can't imagine collusion going on in the Cafe Challenge league, but there are certain red flags about this deal concerning the players involved and the ranks of the teams in the standings. Mookie's response to the trade:
I've been trying to get steals all year. Sizemore is the best player in this deal but I am giving up one of the best shortstops plus Cust who has as many HR in half of the AB.
Hamels has only one win with a 5.00 ERA and a 1.50 Whip over the past month but I want him for his strike outs.
I agree that I did better on this deal than on the Craw deal but it's not crazy. I gave up 3 starters for 2 better ones and now I don't have a shortstop.
I tried for weeks with about a dozen PMs to work out a deal with Swiper and was never able to close the deal. The baseball guys seem to be the only ones who want to do a deal in this league. I'm not just going to sit back and let this thing play out, I want to win it. Anybody else try sending an offer to the last place team?
This isn't football where you do the draft and then sit down in front of your TV, you've got to work it boys.
I'm now in the market for a ss and I still need steals.


Mookie's current roster:
C Jorge Posada
1B Albert Pujols
2B Robinson Canó
3B Aramis Ramírez
SS Édgar Rentería
OF Brad Hawpe
OF Carl Crawford
OF Willy Taveras
Util Jack Cust
BN Michael Cuddyer
BN Chad Tracy
BN Xavier Nady
P Chad Cordero
P Todd Jones
P Derek Lowe
P Brandon Webb
P Manny Corpas
BN Jason Marquis
BN Chris Young
BN Sean Marshall
DL Huston Street


Pinch Hitters' current roster:
C Johnny Estrada
1B David Ortiz
2B Julio Lugo
3B Ty Wigginton
SS Brendan Harris
OF Grady Sizemore
OF Vernon Wells
OF Hideki Matsui
Util Carlos Peña
BN Richie Sexson
P Bob Wickman
P Francisco Cordero
P Joe Borowski
P Brad Hennessey
P Jeff Francis
BN Hideki Okajima
BN Kelvim Escobar
BN Cole Hamels
BN Chien-Ming Wang
BN Sergio Mitre
DL John Smoltz


We have yet to hear from kentx12. Any feedback from the cafe (since we represent our respective cafes by competing in this league).

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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby deerayfan072 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:50 pm

That is a VERY bad trade Very bad
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby deerayfan072 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:20 pm

To Further

Sizemore was a 1st rounder is this style draft, Hamels is a stud, Harris playing great

Cust is finally having a decent year, Renteria =Harris, Marshall is an enigma

Not veto worthy, but a horrible trade
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby teddy ballgame » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:42 pm

I would honestly suspect collusion if I saw that trade in my league. Veto.
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby TN_Titans_05 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:44 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:To Further

Sizemore was a 1st rounder is this style draft, Hamels is a stud, Harris playing great

Cust is finally having a decent year, Renteria =Harris, Marshall is an enigma

Not veto worthy, but a horrible trade


I agree a horrible trade and while I dont think it is vetoable, it is VERY close.

Cust is WW fodder until those 2 weeks hes hot. Edgar>Harris because he has proved hell produce all season but is not THAT much of an upgrade and you right on abour Marshall.
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby Warpigs » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:52 pm

TN_Titans_05 wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:To Further

Sizemore was a 1st rounder is this style draft, Hamels is a stud, Harris playing great

Cust is finally having a decent year, Renteria =Harris, Marshall is an enigma

Not veto worthy, but a horrible trade


I agree a horrible trade and while I dont think it is vetoable, it is VERY close.

Cust is WW fodder until those 2 weeks hes hot. Edgar>Harris because he has proved hell produce all season but is not THAT much of an upgrade and you right on abour Marshall.


It doesn't help that it was the last place team and the best team (from the FBC). It also doesn't help that we have yet to hear from the last place team's owner on this deal.
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby deerayfan072 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:56 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:I would honestly suspect collusion if I saw that trade in my league. Veto.


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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby deerayfan072 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:57 pm

Warpigs wrote:
TN_Titans_05 wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:To Further

Sizemore was a 1st rounder is this style draft, Hamels is a stud, Harris playing great

Cust is finally having a decent year, Renteria =Harris, Marshall is an enigma

Not veto worthy, but a horrible trade


I agree a horrible trade and while I dont think it is vetoable, it is VERY close.

Cust is WW fodder until those 2 weeks hes hot. Edgar>Harris because he has proved hell produce all season but is not THAT much of an upgrade and you right on abour Marshall.


It doesn't help that it was the last place team and the best team (from the FBC). It also doesn't help that we have yet to hear from the last place team's owner on this deal.


I agree. I would be real mad too, especially how we pride ourselves here in the cafe
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby TN_Titans_05 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:03 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:I agree. I would be real mad too, especially how we pride ourselves here in the cafe



I really would never in a million think Mook would do something like that but, this trade is BS....the only thing I can think is competation is so fierce some will do whatever it takes to win. :-?
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Re: Controversy in the Cafe Challenge league??

Postby LukeW9027 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:40 pm

I say this trade is as about as vetoable as it gets. Not even close.
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