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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:13 am

dream_017 wrote:For the record, I have never liked Vick.

Sure there are many of us saying that he should not be allowed to play, but the facts are that if he is allowed to play, he will sell tickets and people will buy his jersey. There is the possibility that being away from the game will take its toll and he will not become a starter again, but there will be a team willing to give him the chance (whether we think it is right or wrong)


How long is he out for? I agree if he's still got some speed left that he will be picked up by somebody whether we think it's good for the game or not.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:26 am

bigh0rt wrote:He should certainly be allowed back in the league. He'll have served his time, and been 'rehabilitated'; that is the purpose of jail time isn't it? I think what he did is as despicable as the next guy, but after he's served his sentence, he should be allowed to pursue his career, provided a team wants his services, same as any other person would do in any other career.

I agree with this completely.
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby Metroid » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:39 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:He should certainly be allowed back in the league. He'll have served his time, and been 'rehabilitated'; that is the purpose of jail time isn't it? I think what he did is as despicable as the next guy, but after he's served his sentence, he should be allowed to pursue his career, provided a team wants his services, same as any other person would do in any other career.

I agree with this completely.

And so do I, and I said as much. Doesn't change my personal opinion that he should never see and NFL field again and that he's a turd. :-?

And yeah h0rt Vick is a human being....it's just that he's a waste of one. :-°
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby dream_017 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:59 am

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dream_017 wrote:For the record, I have never liked Vick.

Sure there are many of us saying that he should not be allowed to play, but the facts are that if he is allowed to play, he will sell tickets and people will buy his jersey. There is the possibility that being away from the game will take its toll and he will not become a starter again, but there will be a team willing to give him the chance (whether we think it is right or wrong)


How long is he out for? I agree if he's still got some speed left that he will be picked up by somebody whether we think it's good for the game or not.

He played his last game 12/31/2007. Not sure how time away affects a QB, but he is a QB that runs, which he may not be able to recapture. In any case, a team will pick him up(if reinstated) and give him a chance.
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby Metroid » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:09 am

dream_017 wrote:
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dream_017 wrote:For the record, I have never liked Vick.

Sure there are many of us saying that he should not be allowed to play, but the facts are that if he is allowed to play, he will sell tickets and people will buy his jersey. There is the possibility that being away from the game will take its toll and he will not become a starter again, but there will be a team willing to give him the chance (whether we think it is right or wrong)


How long is he out for? I agree if he's still got some speed left that he will be picked up by somebody whether we think it's good for the game or not.

He played his last game 12/31/2007. Not sure how time away affects a QB, but he is a QB that runs, which he may not be able to recapture. In any case, a team will pick him up(if reinstated) and give him a chance.

I could see him returning kicks/punts and playing wideout. I doubt he'll ever be behind center again...but you never know.
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:14 am

Metroid wrote:
dream_017 wrote:
Omaha Red Sox wrote:
How long is he out for? I agree if he's still got some speed left that he will be picked up by somebody whether we think it's good for the game or not.

He played his last game 12/31/2007. Not sure how time away affects a QB, but he is a QB that runs, which he may not be able to recapture. In any case, a team will pick him up(if reinstated) and give him a chance.

I could see him returning kicks/punts and playing wideout. I doubt he'll ever be behind center again...but you never know.


So you think he'll be picked up regardless of whether he can be competitive on the field or not? I could see him as a wideout or return specialist too, but not after x amount of years go by and he's lost a step or two.
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby Metroid » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:47 am

Omaha Red Sox wrote:
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dream_017 wrote:He played his last game 12/31/2007. Not sure how time away affects a QB, but he is a QB that runs, which he may not be able to recapture. In any case, a team will pick him up(if reinstated) and give him a chance.

I could see him returning kicks/punts and playing wideout. I doubt he'll ever be behind center again...but you never know.


So you think he'll be picked up regardless of whether he can be competitive on the field or not? I could see him as a wideout or return specialist too, but not after x amount of years go by and he's lost a step or two.

No I don't think he'll be picked up on his name alone...although it'll help get him through some doors. He'll have to prove that he still has something to offer, which I'm sure he will in some way
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:29 pm

Metroid wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:He should certainly be allowed back in the league. He'll have served his time, and been 'rehabilitated'; that is the purpose of jail time isn't it? I think what he did is as despicable as the next guy, but after he's served his sentence, he should be allowed to pursue his career, provided a team wants his services, same as any other person would do in any other career.

I agree with this completely.

And so do I, and I said as much. Doesn't change my personal opinion that he should never see and NFL field again and that he's a turd. :-?

And yeah h0rt Vick is a human being....it's just that he's a waste of one. :-°

Eh. I don't think anyone is a waste of a human being, regardless of their beliefs or actions. What he did was truly a shame, but he received his punishment and is serving it, and should theoretically be rehabilitated by the time his time served is completed. Provided he doesn't run out and start up another illegal dog fighting ring, I'm content with him serving the time for his actions.

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dream_017 wrote:He played his last game 12/31/2007. Not sure how time away affects a QB, but he is a QB that runs, which he may not be able to recapture. In any case, a team will pick him up(if reinstated) and give him a chance.

I could see him returning kicks/punts and playing wideout. I doubt he'll ever be behind center again...but you never know.


So you think he'll be picked up regardless of whether he can be competitive on the field or not? I could see him as a wideout or return specialist too, but not after x amount of years go by and he's lost a step or two.

As long as he's got the potential to sell a boatload of jerseys and put some more rear ends in seats, I think a team will certainly take a flier on him unless it's obvious he brings absolutely nothing to the table anymore, which I don't see being the case.
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby Metroid » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:16 pm

bigh0rt wrote:Eh. I don't think anyone is a waste of a human being, regardless of their beliefs or actions. What he did was truly a shame, but he received his punishment and is serving it, and should theoretically be rehabilitated by the time his time served is completed. Provided he doesn't run out and start up another illegal dog fighting ring, I'm content with him serving the time for his actions.

I hear ya man, and I agree to a point. I keep saying the same thing over and over... if he serves his time for his crime then kudos to him. Does that change the way I personally view him? Not at all. What he did in my book is one of the most heinous acts a person can do. For me I put animal cruelty right up there with child abuse and rape. Is it as bad? Probably not to most but to me it is. It's hard for me to forgive somebody who does any of those things...rehabilitated or not.
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Re: Man's best friend

Postby Guru13 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:54 pm

I'm sorta lookin' at it this way, is someone who was a druggie/alcaholic, but has rehabbed, turned their life around, etc. not worthy of a job? If they are indeed worthy of a job, than I believe he should have an equal opportunity. I think.
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