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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby TomBrooklyn » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:17 am

biju wrote:We have a variation of #1, but picking up someone with your waiver pick costs more than a regular add/drop.
What does it cost, and what is the difference between a "regular add/drop" and picking someone off the waiver wire and dropping a player to make room for him?
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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby Dan Lambskin » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:12 am

i prefer #2.

one drawback to #1 is that a strong team could lose week 1 and have the 1st WW pick, and week 1 seems to be when a lot of position battles get sorted out. this is especially relevant for leagues that dont allow waivers between the draft and week 1

a blind bid system is a 3rd option and probably the most "fair" but MFL is the only software i know of that supports it (Sportsline might...maybe others as well)
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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby LS2throwed » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:38 am

The 1 major gripe I have about the last place getting 1st waivers each week is your awarding the owner who is in last place and punishing the first place owner...So because a guy put together a good team that means he should have no right to ever pick up a waiver claim? If your consistently a top 3 or 4 team all year you will never get to pick up any meaningful player no matter how early he knew about the guy...Why not just give last place in the draft 1st waivers, this his one reward for picking last in the draft, but from that point it goes in order, you use your #1 waiver you go back to 12th regardless of position...That insist each team will get a crack at a waiver claim at least at some point if their patient no matter how good they are.
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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby shagworth » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:37 pm

LS2throwed wrote:The 1 major gripe I have about the last place getting 1st waivers each week is your awarding the owner who is in last place and punishing the first place owner...So because a guy put together a good team that means he should have no right to ever pick up a waiver claim? If your consistently a top 3 or 4 team all year you will never get to pick up any meaningful player no matter how early he knew about the guy...Why not just give last place in the draft 1st waivers, this his one reward for picking last in the draft, but from that point it goes in order, you use your #1 waiver you go back to 12th regardless of position...That insist each team will get a crack at a waiver claim at least at some point if their patient no matter how good they are.



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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby spodog » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:16 pm

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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby biju » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:24 pm

TomBrooklyn wrote:
biju wrote:We have a variation of #1, but picking up someone with your waiver pick costs more than a regular add/drop.
What does it cost, and what is the difference between a "regular add/drop" and picking someone off the waiver wire and dropping a player to make room for him?


I should first note that ours is certainly a variation of #1, but not really the same thing. First, we set only the first week with the results and after that it just rolls the way a "normal" waiver system works. But our add/drops cost a dollar and using your waiver for a player costs an extra $1 for a total of $2. It's not really much of a penalty, but it's enough to make people really think about it some and it sweetens the transaction pot at the end of the year.

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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby 2ksports » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:48 am



what's the cap?

What if 2 people bid the max? Are the bids handled via messageboard?
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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby Retet » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:35 am

I know I'm probably in the minority in this, but I like first come, first serve. No waivers, no automated lists, no mechanized egalitarianism. . . . I've been in waivers leagues, and I find the systematic methods of waivers deaden the rush of acquiring a flash-in-the-pan free agent and make watching the games for injured players or unexpected stars far less exciting.

So I say -- free market system! Go capitalism! :-) :-)
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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby spodog » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:35 pm

2ksports wrote:


what's the cap?

What if 2 people bid the max? Are the bids handled via messageboard?


CAP = set the cap to a level that is appropriate for you league. leagues with high entry fees will have higher caps.

There is no max for a single bid in a well designed bidding system. The only max is the remaining amount on that owners bidding balance.

If 2 people bid EXACTLY the same amount, then the owner who submitted one of the high bids earlier gets the nod.
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Re: Which waiver system is better?

Postby spodog » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:40 pm

Retet wrote:I know I'm probably in the minority in this, but I like first come, first serve. No waivers, no automated lists, no mechanized egalitarianism. . . . I've been in waivers leagues, and I find the systematic methods of waivers deaden the rush of acquiring a flash-in-the-pan free agent and make watching the games for injured players or unexpected stars far less exciting.

So I say -- free market system! Go capitalism! :-) :-)


The bidding system mimics capitalism much more than a FCFS system. In a bidding system, you put your money where your mouth is.

Agree with you that almost all waivers systems blow. Thats why I am a fan of the bidding system.
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