auctioning for value screwing me over? - Fantasy Football Cafe 2014 Fantasy Football Cafe


Return to Football Talk

auctioning for value screwing me over?

Moderator: Football Moderators

auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby Cooner » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:36 am

[rant]

In one of my main leagues (10 team, $200), we switched to an auction format this year. Most of the owners have never done an auction draft before (myself included). This led to some serious overpaying early in the draft, and thanks to some oversights and good planning on my part, I managed to get some good deals early. Then I started saving cash, and started pulling out a few ignored players later in the draft when people didn't have the money to spend on them. This left me stacked at RB, but very short on cash with no WRs. I ended up with (yes, in a 10 teamer... with experienced owners in a 5 year running league)

Peyton Manning $32
Sean Alexander $68
Rudi $26 (steal of the draft)
Gore $38 (steal number two)
Benson $20
Morris $1

My WRs ended up being:
Randy Moss $8
Devery Henderson $1
Mike Furrey $1
Antwaan Randle El $1

I was thrilled... I didn't care that my WRs were largely useless, surely I could trade from my RB strength for WRs. So the first thing I do is start floating deals... and no takers. Not a one. Everyone is giving me the classic "I'm pretty happy with my team." It just seems that I ended up the only person auctioning to get the best player for the dollar, whereas everyone else was drafting to fill up a team.

Ok, so this isn't the worst thing that has happened... I'll have to wait a week or two until someone loses a RB to injury, and then look to make a deal. I don't think I've screwed over my season yet.

Then I do my next draft, where I ended up having to autodraft. Ok, poor timing on my part. I ended up fairly happy with my team, but severly lacking in RB depth (thanks to Yahoo taking a kicker, defense, backup TE and backup WR before going for... Kevin Jones as my #3 RB). But my WRs are strong, and I have both Todd Heap and Chris Cooley. Surely I can deal a WR and Heap for an acceptable platoon RB. But, no. Again, noone wants to deal til they get a feel for where they're at.

Am I just playing in bush leagues? I've had trouble dealing before, but never quite like this, where literally everyone -- even people who would win in value on the trade -- wants to see the first few weeks before even considering trades. Or is this simply the classic case of people drafting a team and getting attached to their players' upsides? Ugh. Why doesn't anyone draft for pure value anymore?!?!?
Best... fantasy advice... EVER. :D

[quote]Always play the players who will get you the most points[/quote]
Cooner
Offensive Coordinator
Offensive Coordinator

User avatar

Posts: 746
Joined: 2 May 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: da Big Apple

Re: auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby BrutallyHuge » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:08 am

You should never assume that you'll make a deal. Do you think others are saying, "Let me draft not for my team...but for someone else's team."?

After the draft, you should have a team ready for battle. If you drafted well, you should have a good team and reserves you might trade down the line. Never draft players and expect to trade them.
BrutallyHuge
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Cafe RankerEagle EyeCafe Blackjack Weekly WinnerLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 5971
Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Illadelph

Re: auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby Peacesells » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:14 pm

Exactly what he said. Plus, most everyone feels they had a good draft...it's natural. They will want to see how it turns out before doing alot of trades. Wait a week or 2 and target the o'fer teams and you'll see some willing to deal.

peace
PLEASE RATE MY AUCTION DRAFT. CLICK BELOW.
viewtopic.php?t=340649
Peacesells
Special Teams Staff
Special Teams Staff

User avatar

Posts: 309
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Home Cafe: Football

Re: auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby Cooner » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:25 pm

I guess maybe I'm thinking of this too much from a baseball standpoint. In baseball (especially keeper leagues, and especially cafe keeper leagues *cough cough*) people are pretty willing to deal at any point. They're in it for the long run, and there are so many games that value pays off in the long run, not performance now. In football, maybe since there are fewer games it matters as much to get individual performances?
Best... fantasy advice... EVER. :D

[quote]Always play the players who will get you the most points[/quote]
Cooner
Offensive Coordinator
Offensive Coordinator

User avatar

Posts: 746
Joined: 2 May 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: da Big Apple

Re: auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby venus » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:14 pm

It's hard to be really down on a drafted player before the season starts, unless the draft was in June, July or earlier etc. If they were really down on that player, they wouldn't have picked(redraft) or bid(auction) for them. When I look at both of my leagues teams they look pretty solid, but I know within a few weeks, you can tell who the decent and bad teams are, then the trading can begin :-D

QB's Palmer, Kitna
RB's SA, Henry, Edge, Chester Taylor,
WR's Lee Evans, Branch, RBrown, Coles, Glenn, BMarshall
TE's Shockey
K's Nedney
D NE
venus
Head Coach
Head Coach

User avatar

Posts: 1547
Joined: 19 Nov 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: River Falls, WI

Re: auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby dgan » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:45 pm

I guess it depends on how many WRs you start, but I wouldn't be too anxious to make a trade. With Manning, Alexander, and Rudi/Gore, you should be more than making up for your deficiency at WR. Your WRs may get outscored by 10 points, but your QB and RBs should be outscoring most other teams by 15 - 20. You're definately strong enough to make the playoffs, so I would just wait it out the first few weeks and look for a deal down the road that will set you up for the playoff run.
Image
dgan
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Eagle Eye
Posts: 2941
Joined: 19 Aug 2006
Home Cafe: Football
Location: The frozen tundra of Lambeau Field

Re: auctioning for value screwing me over?

Postby eaglesrule » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:53 pm

Baseball isn't really instructive here, because more positions are used, and more stats are taken into consideration. There are a finite amount of backs in football, but baseball has the same type of dynamic with closers. Then you factor in scarce spots like catcher, scare stats like steals, etc., and there is a lot more reason to trade, there are finite amounts of certain resources. And, honestly, its easier to pull of an assymetrical trade anyway. 2 for 1s are generally bad in football and baseball, but in baseball if someone needs a stat, they will downgrade.

In football, I don't feel nearly as compelled to trade unless I am bit by an injury, or have an "extra" asset because someone exploded so bad that I didn't count on.
The opening scene of the movie "Saving Private Ryan" is loosely based on games of dodgeball Brian Dawkins played in second grade.
eaglesrule
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar

Posts: 2843
Joined: 3 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Football


Return to Football Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Start & Sit Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Get Ready...
The 2014 NFL season kicks off in 14:11 hours
(and 41 days)
2014 NFL Schedule


  • Fantasy Football
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact