steelerfan513 wrote:The one knock on Mendenhall is that he doesn't run in an NFL-style offense. The Illini run the spread, and Mendenhall benefits from the athleticism that Juice Williams brings to the quarterback position. He's definitely got the size to succeed in the NFL, and maybe he can run well in an NFL-style offense, but my guess is that teams will cite the offense the Illini run and be a bit cautious with drafting him.
He may benefit somewhat from Juice, but no more than Felix Jones benefits from McFadden running in the Wildcat offense. Also, the benefits of Juice in the running game are negated by the fact that he is a terrible passing QB and teams don't have to defend against the pass so they can key on Mendenhall.
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CC wrote:He may benefit somewhat from Juice, but no more than Felix Jones benefits from McFadden running in the Wildcat offense. Also, the benefits of Juice in the running game are negated by the fact that he is a terrible passing QB and teams don't have to defend against the pass so they can key on Mendenhall.
Eh, even though Arkansas uses more Wildcat than you'd expect, they don't use it that much to where Jones would really get a sizable benefit. John Stewart and Dennis Dixon would be a better comparison, as Dixon has made a lot of Oregon's most crucial plays with his feet.
Teams can't "key" in on Mendenhall when they're still worried Juice has the ball. It's the Michael Vick complex.
CC wrote:He may benefit somewhat from Juice, but no more than Felix Jones benefits from McFadden running in the Wildcat offense. Also, the benefits of Juice in the running game are negated by the fact that he is a terrible passing QB and teams don't have to defend against the pass so they can key on Mendenhall.
Eh, even though Arkansas uses more Wildcat than you'd expect, they don't use it that much to where Jones would really get a sizable benefit. John Stewart and Dennis Dixon would be a better comparison, as Dixon has made a lot of Oregon's most crucial plays with his feet.
Teams can't "key" in on Mendenhall when they're still worried Juice has the ball. It's the Michael Vick complex.
Are you kidding? Jones benefits immensely from Arkansas using the Wildcat formation and guys keying in on McFadden.
The local buzz on Mendenhall is that he is going. He is definately a guy I will be targeting in the draft. Unfortunately everyone around here is an Illini fan, he will likely be priced out of value. Mendenhall may have only rushed for 88yds on Sat. but it was against Ohio St. You may want to add defenses they played. It's nice to have some selection next year w/ some real depth at RB coming into the NFL.
deerayfan072 wrote:Are you kidding? Jones benefits immensely from Arkansas using the Wildcat formation and guys keying in on McFadden.
Are you kidding? I was saying that Arkansas doesn't use it to an every down basis, so it's tough to attribute Jones' success to that. A lot of Jones' best plays have been on kick returns and QB hand offs when D-Mac isn't even in the picture. This isn't the case for Stewart, Mendenhall, et al.
deerayfan072 wrote:Are you kidding? Jones benefits immensely from Arkansas using the Wildcat formation and guys keying in on McFadden.
Are you kidding? I was saying that Arkansas doesn't use it to an every down basis, so it's tough to attribute Jones' success to that. A lot of Jones' best plays have been on kick returns and QB hand offs when D-Mac isn't even in the picture. This isn't the case for Stewart, Mendenhall, et al.
They don't use it on an every down basis you are right, but Jone is in the game when they do run it, but not always when they are not in it.
deerayfan072 wrote:Are you kidding? Jones benefits immensely from Arkansas using the Wildcat formation and guys keying in on McFadden.
Are you kidding? I was saying that Arkansas doesn't use it to an every down basis, so it's tough to attribute Jones' success to that. A lot of Jones' best plays have been on kick returns and QB hand offs when D-Mac isn't even in the picture. This isn't the case for Stewart, Mendenhall, et al.
I think you are vastly overestimating Juice's worth as a threat on offense. Yes, he is fast, but he is also a terrible QB and there have been calls for McGee to take his job on and off all year (Zooker putting in a freshman QB at times when he is trying to develop a raw sophmore QB isn't exactly a vote of confidence).
Dixon granted is a big threat that has to be accounted for, but Juice is no more of a threat than the average college QB and is significantly worse than some.
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