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[SniperShot]

A PBC will only be as great as its participants.

A PBC will only mean as much as people are willing to risk and make it mean.

Times are a changing and while it might not necessarily be for the worse PBC's are not what they used to be. PBC's should mainly be reserved for two instances, a divisional game and/or a game with huge implications. Non conference games should almost never be PBCed and I've seen a few this year. Thumbs down to that. Unless you have a very fitting and important reason to PBC one of those games I would tend to avoid that. I remember somebody made a PBC this year and I posted in there "Is there ANY reason this PBC could be meaningful?" I remember getting back something like the assistant QB coach of the Cowboys used to be a coach on the other team. That's not grounds for a PBC people! I try not to get into any confrontations around here but at times I've politely (Or maybe at times not so politely) questioned why a PBC was issued.

Here's an example of a very successful PBC this season: viewtopic.php?t=349034

What made that PBC great? BOLD predictions, things are needed to put on the line. Meaning behind a PBC is what makes it fun and too many times we've had lifeless PBC's. That PBC (Bears/Cowboys week 3) had plenty of meaning and in my opinion was an NFC superiority swinging game.

Wager the avatar, wear a sig of shame, go for a MONTH not just a week. Things like this provide great entertainment and make these things memorable. Take this from someone who's been a part of some of the most epic past PBC's.

I'm too lazy to run a few more searches but I'm thinking of a few right now that were unforgettable PBC's: Like Week 1 between the Colts and Ravens in 2005, Sunday Night Football, deluxe and Duran Duran had at it... Find that thread, I still use the Peyton Manning NASA picture in Del's milestone threads, even though he hates remembering that because the Ravens lost. That's what makes this stuff so GREAT. If you can laugh and remember things years down the road, that's what makes a good PBC. That's what we need more of. Pictures, trashtalk, predictions, DO IT. Win or lose you'll make memories and keep this stuff great. Put your heart into it.

[dream_017]

A PBC will only be as great as its participants.

A PBC will only mean as much as people are willing to risk and make it mean.

Times are a changing and while it might not necessarily be for the worse PBC's are not what they used to be. PBC's should mainly be reserved for two instances, a divisional game and/or a game with huge implications. Non conference games should almost never be PBCed and I've seen a few this year. Thumbs down to that. Unless you have a very fitting and important reason to PBC one of those games I would tend to avoid that. I remember somebody made a PBC this year and I posted in there "Is there ANY reason this PBC could be meaningful?" I remember getting back something like the assistant QB coach of the Cowboys used to be a coach on the other team. That's not grounds for a PBC people! I try not to get into any confrontations around here but at times I've politely (Or maybe at times not so politely) questioned why a PBC was issued.

Here's an example of a very successful PBC this season: viewtopic.php?t=349034

What made that PBC great? BOLD predictions, things are needed to put on the line. Meaning behind a PBC is what makes it fun and too many times we've had lifeless PBC's. That PBC (Bears/Cowboys week 3) had plenty of meaning and in my opinion was an NFC superiority swinging game.

Wager the avatar, wear a sig of shame, go for a MONTH not just a week. Things like this provide great entertainment and make these things memorable. Take this from someone who's been a part of some of the most epic past PBC's.

I'm too lazy to run a few more searches but I'm thinking of a few right now that were unforgettable PBC's: Like Week 1 between the Colts and Ravens in 2005, Sunday Night Football, deluxe and Duran Duran had at it... Find that thread, I still use the Peyton Manning NASA picture in Del's milestone threads, even though he hates remembering that because the Ravens lost. That's what makes this stuff so GREAT. If you can laugh and remember things years down the road, that's what makes a good PBC. That's what we need more of. Pictures, trashtalk, predictions, DO IT. Win or lose you'll make memories and keep this stuff great. Put your heart into it.

Great post Sniper I agree 110% I have been in very few PCBs...one reason is I'm a Lions fan so, there haven't been very many big games.

Here is the 2005 thread

[steelerfan513]

Hopefully we'll get some good turnout for Steelers-Patriots.

[treat24]

The was a great post sniper. (i will PM you after this post)

Anything you think I could do to help the PBC? I.E pick the games? no idea... throwing out ideas...

I've been a part of some nice ones in years past, would love to see the passion back in it...

[fantasynewbie7]

I would take part in the PBC's if I only knew how to put a paper bag or something as such on my avatar. Hell, I don't even know how to put an avatar on. If someone could tell me how, then for sure I would be take part in these pbc's.

[treat24]

I would take part in the PBC's if I only knew how to put a paper bag or something as such on my avatar. Hell, I don't even know how to put an avatar on. If someone could tell me how, then for sure I would be take part in these pbc's.

user control panel > profile > avatar > display gallery button...

[Payne Dailey]

Sniper that was a great post, thank you.

Moon, hey buddy whats up? I was gone from the cafe last year and just been hit & run posting this year. Real life is is kicking fantasy life's ass. I was hoping you or float/jet would have answered my nfl.com question in GT. That song is still driving me crazy.

Dream & Treat what's up with your av's? Not that theres anything wrong with that.

[treat24]

Sniper that was a great post, thank you.

Moon, hey buddy whats up? I was gone from the cafe last year and just been hit & run posting this year. Real life is is kicking fantasy life's ass. I was hoping you or float/jet would have answered my nfl.com question in GT. That song is still driving me crazy.

Dream & Treat what's up with your av's? Not that theres anything wrong with that.

hehe, new mod hazing.

I have no idea what the song is either

[steelerfan513]

Sniper that was a great post, thank you.

Moon, hey buddy whats up? I was gone from the cafe last year and just been hit & run posting this year. Real life is is kicking fantasy life's ass. I was hoping you or float/jet would have answered my nfl.com question in GT. That song is still driving me crazy.

Dream & Treat what's up with your av's? Not that theres anything wrong with that.

hehe, new mod hazing.

Or so they claim.

[deluxe_247]

I'm too lazy to run a few more searches but I'm thinking of a few right now that were unforgettable PBC's: Like Week 1 between the Colts and Ravens in 2005, Sunday Night Football, deluxe and Duran Duran had at it... Find that thread, I still use the Peyton Manning NASA picture in Del's milestone threads, even though he hates remembering that because the Ravens lost. That's what makes this stuff so GREAT. If you can laugh and remember things years down the road, that's what makes a good PBC. That's what we need more of. Pictures, trashtalk, predictions, DO IT. Win or lose you'll make memories and keep this stuff great. Put your heart into it.

lol those were good times indeed . dont forget the rematch (viewtopic.php?t=320718&hilit=colts+ravens+PBC), which was almost equally entertaining...yet had the same outcome

honestly i feel like a lot of the blame lies on me with the PBC ordeal. back when i wrote the original thread for the PBC rules...i was fairly new to it and didnt understand the full concept behind them...not to mention it was a bit different because we didnt have separate thread for commentary- we actually used the challenge threads to discuss the games also. in the rules thread i named as the reference the ravens against the dolphins (a non conference game that i think had just happened so it was fresh on my mind). originally i didnt see anything wrong with non-conference challenges, especially with buddies...but as time moved on and the cafe became more popular, everything just became too watered down. there were challenges for everything. not just games, but for individual players and all kinds of random things...and people were using the actual paperbag avatar for those challenges rather than something else. paperbags were seen everywhere and became less of a big deal, and less embarrassing to wear.

after all of that started i recommended that my original rules post be edited to state that paper bag challenges should only be reserved for conference games/playoffs, but i never got an ok, and since im not a mod...i never did it since its not my call. i hope that at some point it does get edited. leave the PBC for those big games and let people issue challenges for sigs avatars, or whatever separate...and leave the sacred PBC avatar for what its intended. doing so would give it meaning again and making and taking challenges more desirable. i dont enter challenges that are non conference anymore for this reason.

i agree with the OP, it is a part of the cafe that was very enjoyable...and while it still is, its not nearly like it was in the past.