by latsprewell20002000 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:06 am
Okay guys im just opening up the Rogers talk. I wonder what some of you other Lions fans out there think of this guy. I personally think that if someone doesnt make him see what he could be, he will stay the way he is. Average, overpaid, spend half the game on the sidelines. Cause lets face it S Rogers at half speed is better than most. He knows that. He is challenging the whole damn thing that Marinelli is trying to do with these guys. Fight, Tackle, Dont quit, that mindset. Well tell me how you can expect your team to buy into that when you have your best defensive player too fat to even compete?? Hes fat and has knee problems because of it. I hope he wakes up soon cause hes wasting something special. There arent too many guys his size that can do the things that he can do athletically. Hes a special talent but hes wasting it. If a coach doesnt get thru to him to make him see that hes only doing about half of what he could do then i dont know what to say. He could be an absolute terror out there if he was playing at the right weight. I mean we get to see him at 100% for the first couple of games every year. If he played like that every game for the rest of his career he would be in the Hall of Fame. Its that simple, hes got HOF talent with a highschool work ethic. Its sad and someone either needs to make him change his ways and mindset about football or we are going to have to let someone else deal with him. I mean a fourth and one at the goaline for basically the game and hes on the sideline???? We need him out there for 50 snaps a game. Not 30. Marinelli said that he was on the sideline cause of the rotation. LOL thats a joke in itself. Ummm at that point in the game you go with your best players. You lean on them to make a play, make a stop. You dont keep rotating people in and out. Cause what happened in that game happens. The RB walks untouched into the endzone. Marinelli also said that we didnt know that they were going to run the ball. Oh, I didnt know that S Rogers didnt play on passing downs. Either way he needed to be on that field. Hes needed to be on that field alot this year when hes not been. I mean you dont see other guys as good as him run to the sidelines because they are tired. You dont see the greats do that. The great ones stay in and are in the game when it matters. Rogers needs to decide what he wants from football. Does he want a paycheck or does he want to be remembered?
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Thursday, January 24, 2008 Lions Lions' Rogers might be on way out Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News
Shaun Rogers, the big man in the middle of the Lions' defense, remains big news in the offseason -- with increasing speculation he's headed elsewhere.
ESPN reported Wednesday that the Lions plan to part company with Rogers, whose weight and dramatic decline in production in the second half of last season almost certainly have made the 370-pound nose tackle expendable.
The Lions' two options are to trade or release Rogers if they decide not to bring him back for an eighth season in Detroit.
Coach Rod Marinelli, who has expressed his disappointment in Rogers' performance, did little to quash speculation Wednesday.
Marinelli, attending Senior Bowl practices in Mobile, Ala., with his assistants, scouts and front-office personnel, authorized Lions vice-president Bill Keenist to make the following statement:
"Like Rod said at his season-ending press conference, we expect every player under contract to be back with us next season."
Marinelli made an almost identical statement last week when asked about Rogers' future at a news conference introducing Jim Colletto as offensive coordinator.
"Every guy that's under contract right now, I expect to be with us," Marinelli said.
Nothing is imminent with Rogers. If he's traded, it likely will be just before the NFL draft, April 26-27. The Lions would do well to get a mid-round draft pick, perhaps as high as the third round.
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Marinelli has couched his words carefully in any discussion of Rogers, but it's clear Rogers has not bought into Marinelli's style. His lack of production and poor conditioning have not matched the requirements of Marinelli's defense.
Marinelli made it known late in the season and again after the season he was disappointed with the way Rogers' performance deteriorated in the second half of the season.
Rogers played well in the first eight games. His performance peaked in Game 8 -- a 44-7 victory over Denver. He had 2 1/2 sacks and returned an interception for a touchdown. His play earned him the NFC's defensive-player-of-the-week award.
Rogers played one good game in the last eight, registering two sacks in a victory over Kansas City.
He has three years left on the six-year, $46 million contract extension he signed before the last game of the 2004 season. His base salary is $5 million in 2008.
In his season-ending assessment of Rogers, Marinelli credited him with playing nine good games, but said endurance also was an issue.
Rogers' weight has been a problem throughout his career with the Lions, which began in 2001 as a second-round draft pick out of Texas.
Rogers was listed at 340 pounds last year, but sources within the Lions' organization have said he never got lighter than 370. Rogers had shoulder and knee operations in 2006.
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