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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby RiffRaff » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:42 pm

treat24 wrote:
I'd talk to raff about it then since he has an electric...


More knowledgeable about the gas though. There should be some blinking lights on the unit, there is a key for sequence of blinks. Let me know the blink sequence and the water heater model.
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby houstonherdfan » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:36 am

do you own the house. If so look into buying a home warrenty. first American is a good company. The warrinties cost about 500- 700 per year and cover almost anything. You pay a 40 - 50 dolar fee and the rest is paid by the warrenty company.

buy the warrenty and wait a couiple months then call them. They will send out a plumber to fix it and it will cost you the 50 bucks.

well worth ther money spent. We have had water heater replaced, AC fixed 4-5 times, a couple electrical issues, garage door fixed, and 3 big time plumbing clogs fixed.

we have had enough stiff fixed over the 9 years we have owned the house to break even or better on the cost of the warrenty.

first American is the company qwe are with.
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby treat24 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:32 am

houstonherdfan wrote:do you own the house. If so look into buying a home warrenty. first American is a good company. The warrinties cost about 500- 700 per year and cover almost anything. You pay a 40 - 50 dolar fee and the rest is paid by the warrenty company.

buy the warrenty and wait a couiple months then call them. They will send out a plumber to fix it and it will cost you the 50 bucks.

well worth ther money spent. We have had water heater replaced, AC fixed 4-5 times, a couple electrical issues, garage door fixed, and 3 big time plumbing clogs fixed.

we have had enough stiff fixed over the 9 years we have owned the house to break even or better on the cost of the warrenty.

first American is the company qwe are with.


we have the same deal, different company though, We pay about 600 a year, but we don't pay anything when they fix our stuff. Ours is a MN based company though, so it wouldn't be in FLA.
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby houstonherdfan » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:44 pm

treat24 wrote:
houstonherdfan wrote:do you own the house. If so look into buying a home warrenty. first American is a good company. The warrinties cost about 500- 700 per year and cover almost anything. You pay a 40 - 50 dolar fee and the rest is paid by the warrenty company.

buy the warrenty and wait a couiple months then call them. They will send out a plumber to fix it and it will cost you the 50 bucks.

well worth ther money spent. We have had water heater replaced, AC fixed 4-5 times, a couple electrical issues, garage door fixed, and 3 big time plumbing clogs fixed.

we have had enough stiff fixed over the 9 years we have owned the house to break even or better on the cost of the warrenty.

first American is the company qwe are with.


we have the same deal, different company though, We pay about 600 a year, but we don't pay anything when they fix our stuff. Ours is a MN based company though, so it wouldn't be in FLA.


first American is nation wide
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby RiffRaff » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:57 pm

I would not recommend anyone pay that kind of money for a warranty on a new house.

Warranties are like Casinos, they now the odds. These companies get lots of new home owners scared into getting them and most everything in your house is still under warranty.

Now if you have a house that is 15 years or older, maybe, but I like to fix things myself.

$6000 in the first 10 years of owning a house would be an insane amount of bad luck to incur.

Dang hijackers.

What's the word on that water heater?
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby RiffRaff's Momma » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:26 pm

Oh sunny boy, my water just broke again. :-o
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby Free Bagel » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:56 pm

knapplc wrote:Bagel, what do you mean when you say you replaced the tank with a larger tank? Did you replace the old, malfunctioning heater with a new (or new to you) heater? If you did, and you're still having the same problem, that wouldn't be the water heater causing the issue.


Yeah, it was replaced with a new hot water heater.

I googled some plumbing sites and tried some of the tests they had there like checking for cross connection problems, etc, but haven't been able to nail it down yet.

Looks like I may need to just get the plumbers back out, but it's such a PITA taking time off work and whatnot to have them sit around and tell me that a 40 gallon tank isn't going to spit out hour long hot showers even though that's clearly not the problem I'm explaining to them.
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby knapplc » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:03 pm

I would guess cross-connection would be the issue, then. But Raff would be the final word here. And if he can't help, you're going to have to get the plumbers out.
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby treat24 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:54 am

RiffRaff wrote:I would not recommend anyone pay that kind of money for a warranty on a new house.

Warranties are like Casinos, they now the odds. These companies get lots of new home owners scared into getting them and most everything in your house is still under warranty.

Now if you have a house that is 15 years or older, maybe, but I like to fix things myself.

$6000 in the first 10 years of owning a house would be an insane amount of bad luck to incur.

Dang hijackers.

What's the word on that water heater?


yeah, tough to tell... but you know my wife... so she made us have a warranty. I've owned this house for under 7 months... we needed a new air conditioner ($2000+) and a part for our furnace (who knows...but I doubt it was cheap). The air conditioner, furnace part, and labor probably cost over 3k total... it cost us nothing... well i guess technically we've now paid $50 x 7 = $350 ... but it has been WAY worth it. All of our appliances are/were 2004. Nothing older than 4 years old... We had 3 different people come look at the Air conditioner, there was no fixin' that thing... trustable people too... you know what my father-in-law does for a living... so we have made out like a bandit on that warranty...

that being said... for every one of me, there are a couple people that have nothing go wrong and have wasted money...

FB wrote:Looks like I may need to just get the plumbers back out, but it's such a PITA taking time off work and whatnot to have them sit around and tell me that a 40 gallon tank isn't going to spit out hour long hot showers even though that's clearly not the problem I'm explaining to them.


It sounds like it's the best you can do, unfortunately... Is there anyone with an IQ over 40 that you trust that is a plumber that could come take a look?
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Re: I don't suppose anyone here knows about hot water heaters?

Postby RiffRaff » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:59 am

It is best that you drain 5 gallons of water from your water heater every year.

If you haven't done so in a long time, it is best that you do it soon.

This will save you money in the long run. You might be a little grossed out if it has been more than 5 years.

http://www.improvenet.com/adviceandresources/articleslibrary/jeff_williams_waterheater.html

I wonder what kind of money you could make by simply going around your town doing simple preventive maintenance on water heaters, furnaces, appliances, AC. Too bad I'm not certified, I could definitely undercut all those plumbers and electricians.
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