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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby scottaa1 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:05 pm

I wasn't one of the people who did rankings for this article, but the people involved are all folks that have earned my respect with their knowledge. I'll happily take the advice of people who have earned my respect over time before a few youtube video arguments.
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:44 pm

Metroid wrote:I could bust out J Stew or Mendenhall highlights all day long. What would be the point though? Highlights are useless in this argument. What any of these guys have done on the field in college you can just about throw out the window....remember Reggie Bush? Look at some of his highlights, he was untouchable in college.

We've all seen the the clips...save em. Use your big words to back up your stuff dude.


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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby bmor8811 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:28 pm

It's impossible to legitimately debate with you because you refuse to observe the opposition's side. McFadden is a stud, but showing me highlights from a South Carolina game to support him being in the NFL is a bit silly...

No one is responding here because it's pointless I choose not to care about people that are one-sided and refuse to bend in debates...
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby darin74 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:20 am

I think alot of people will regret not drafting Kevin Smith (Detrot Lions). Detroit has a history of great running backs, i.e. Billy Sims, Barry Sanders. NFL teams are known for certain positions, and Detroit no matter who is at the controls has a nose for running backs. Given this guys college back ground, running style and lack of competition, this is the guy for dynasty leagues. UCF didn't give this guy the spotlight he deserved, and based on his Junior year, he is a machine waiting to be plugged into the right offense. Detroit, if committed to run the ball has a stud in waiting. This guy is a guarantee for 1,250 years, 9 TDS. Based on his body type, could we see the second coming of Eric Dickerson? Remember his rookie year 1,808 yards. I suggest everyone get ready for the new running back star in the league. The funny thing is experts always focus on the college resumes, while it is truly the pro-fit that determines success or failure. If Adrian Peterson gets drafted by the Raiders, he only gets 600 yards, and 4 TDs. Why do I say that? Remember Marcus Allen was a rookie Raider, and took years to become the real deal. Kevin Smith is the truth, and people will catch on by August.
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:59 am

darin74 wrote:I think alot of people will regret not drafting Kevin Smith (Detrot Lions). Detroit has a history of great running backs, i.e. Billy Sims, Barry Sanders. NFL teams are known for certain positions, and Detroit no matter who is at the controls has a nose for running backs. Given this guys college back ground, running style and lack of competition, this is the guy for dynasty leagues. UCF didn't give this guy the spotlight he deserved, and based on his Junior year, he is a machine waiting to be plugged into the right offense. Detroit, if committed to run the ball has a stud in waiting. This guy is a guarantee for 1,250 years, 9 TDS. Based on his body type, could we see the second coming of Eric Dickerson? Remember his rookie year 1,808 yards. I suggest everyone get ready for the new running back star in the league. The funny thing is experts always focus on the college resumes, while it is truly the pro-fit that determines success or failure. If Adrian Peterson gets drafted by the Raiders, he only gets 600 yards, and 4 TDs. Why do I say that? Remember Marcus Allen was a rookie Raider, and took years to become the real deal. Kevin Smith is the truth, and people will catch on by August.


is this serious :-?
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby treat24 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:51 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
darin74 wrote:I think alot of people will regret not drafting Kevin Smith (Detrot Lions). Detroit has a history of great running backs, i.e. Billy Sims, Barry Sanders. NFL teams are known for certain positions, and Detroit no matter who is at the controls has a nose for running backs. Given this guys college back ground, running style and lack of competition, this is the guy for dynasty leagues. UCF didn't give this guy the spotlight he deserved, and based on his Junior year, he is a machine waiting to be plugged into the right offense. Detroit, if committed to run the ball has a stud in waiting. This guy is a guarantee for 1,250 years, 9 TDS. Based on his body type, could we see the second coming of Eric Dickerson? Remember his rookie year 1,808 yards. I suggest everyone get ready for the new running back star in the league. The funny thing is experts always focus on the college resumes, while it is truly the pro-fit that determines success or failure. If Adrian Peterson gets drafted by the Raiders, he only gets 600 yards, and 4 TDs. Why do I say that? Remember Marcus Allen was a rookie Raider, and took years to become the real deal. Kevin Smith is the truth, and people will catch on by August.


is this serious :-?


I was kind of wondering the same. it's his first post, so he doesn't have that established character of joking like that. So tough to tell. Needless to say, an absolute ton of crazy statements in that. Not only are there a ton of Lions running backs he left out but Sanders, who I had on my fantasy team, wasn't a great fantasy player. He was however, one of the greatest RBs ever to play the game. AD, well I think we are on the same page Dee... If he had gone to the raiders last year He may have had well over 300 carries. Give AD that many carries and you make see records smashed, regardless of team. Oakland has a decent defense and a good o-line. AD would have done well there. The funny thing is that he says you can't base a new running star on his college resume, but what the heck, let's call him the next eric dickerson based on his body type :) ... I'm 6'2" 215 and in very good shape... guess I'm bound to be a star in the NFL :-)

yeah, it'd be cool if he comes back to chat to see.
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby darin74 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:44 pm

Guys,

I'm back to defend my position. Yes, I am serious... AD in a Raider uniform is sharing the rock and running behind Fargas. He would have to win the job in Oakland, and take more of a pounding, i.e. Oakland with a tougher schedule. The comment around the yardage accounts for the hold-out with contract negotiations, come on guys, use your imagination.

As far as Kevin Smith is concerned, I stick by the post. College resume is given too much credit, whereas system is what I was really focusing on. Think Broncos, but the Lions with a great back become truly run oriented. Barry was not a great fantasy back because he didn't score TDs, but he is a great back without question. By the way the guy had 90+ career TDs.

I make the leap to Kevin Smith as a great dynasty back because over the next 2-3 years, this guy becomes a 1,500 yard, 12 TD, stud, and that is based on my opinion. I base that on the same set of assumptions that get us all hyped about Fantasy Football every year. I'm an expert until the end of the season.
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby joelamosobadiah » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:05 pm

darin74 wrote:Detroit no matter who is at the controls has a nose for running backs.

This doesn't make sense to me at all. So what makes Detroit RB's so great? The water, the town, the stadium, the owner, the locker room, the weight room, no wait, even those last two have probably changed since the last guys you mentioned. It does matter who is in charge and what the team is like. Just because they are the Lions doesn't mean they are guaranteed a stud RB.

darin74 wrote:The comment around the yardage accounts for the hold-out with contract negotiations, come on guys, use your imagination.


Are you saying that AD would have held out if he was drafted by the Raiders and missed games? :-? And if I want to truly use my imagination, I would say that AD would have not gotten injured at all and would have started all 16 games. Our two imaginations can argue about would have happened there all day long. However, if instead of imagining we go by what amazing things he did in Minnesota, I come to the conclusion he would have been close to that in Oakland as well. It's not like he was running through bus sized holes in Minny or had a great passing game around him or anything.

darin74 wrote:Think Broncos, but the Lions with a great back become truly run oriented. Barry was not a great fantasy back because he didn't score TDs, but he is a great back without question. By the way the guy had 90+ career TDs.

I make the leap to Kevin Smith as a great dynasty back because over the next 2-3 years, this guy becomes a 1,500 yard, 12 TD, stud, and that is based on my opinion. I base that on the same set of assumptions that get us all hyped about Fantasy Football every year. I'm an expert until the end of the season.


When I think Broncos, I think Mike Shanahan. The guy loves to run and loves to have stud backs and loves to build his offensive line for that purpose. It's not the fact they're the Broncos, but its the fact that they're run by a run-oriented coach. Big difference.

If this is your prediction, thats fine and cool and I will give you kudos for saying the things you did. However, I don't agree with the reasoning behind those predictions and just letting you know that. Could he be that next guy? Sure, but I am not going to believe that based on the fact that he wasn't given a proper chance and he has a dominant feline painted on his helmet.
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby GridIronGiant » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:41 pm

scottaa1 wrote:I wasn't one of the people who did rankings for this article, but the people involved are all folks that have earned my respect with their knowledge. I'll happily take the advice of people who have earned my respect over time before a few youtube video arguments.

And that is why you fail.


Picking Mendenhall was a gimmick and the lack of track record mixed with his early struggles in a run heavy offense already made it obvious that he's not much of a runningback, being knocked out for the season now just confirms it. Lame gamble and the writers were dead wrong, of course.

Down to McFadden and Stewart!
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Re: Dynasty Rookie RB Rankings

Postby The Lung » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:02 pm

Huh? Because the guy got hit point blank by Ray Lewis and suffered an injury it's a bad pick? When these are DYNASTY RANKINGS we are talking about, not what happens in the year 2008?

Judging rookie running backs in the dynasty format after 4 weeks for only the 2008 season is why you fail. After the 2011 season, then you maybe you can see who was right and who was wrong. And when Mendenhall makes the Pro Bowl someday, we'll be sure to rub your face in it. ;-D
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