deerayfan072 wrote:I think the Bucs O-Line will be top 10 this season
Faine is a huge boost to the Center position, Joeseph and Trueblood enter their 3rd season, and Sears is only going to get better in his second season. They will open holes, it will be up to Gruden to call run plays.
So you're saying Graham will be a stud?
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deerayfan072 wrote:I think the Bucs O-Line will be top 10 this season
Faine is a huge boost to the Center position, Joeseph and Trueblood enter their 3rd season, and Sears is only going to get better in his second season. They will open holes, it will be up to Gruden to call run plays.
So you're saying Graham will be a stud?
If we ran the ball a lot, and Gruden featured him, yes he would be. The problem is that Gruden likes to complicate his offense and try to out think people, instead if just playing football. He will let Dunn, Graham, Bennett, and KJ (if we sign him, which I think we will) all touch the ball out of the backfield. It is going to be a real RBBC IMO, which knocks him down a peg. I love Graham and think he could be an every down back and solid player if he got the carries and the touches an every down back gets, but he won't IMO.
I consider San Diego, Minnesota, NYG, Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland to have the best offensive lines, in terms of run blocking. Minnesota, NYG, Jacksonville, and Philly have their entire line from last season intact. Tampa Bay and Cleveland actually upgraded after last year's dominant performances, with Jeff Faine and Rex Hadnot respectively.
The problem with the FF Toolbox rankings is that they are looking at both pass and run blocking together. Thus, both Green Bay and New Orleans have inflated rankings, because their excellent pass blocking overcompensates for their mediocre run blocking.
The strength of Jacksonville and Cleveland's lines, especially, make MJD and Jamal Lewis especially compelling RB2's.
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VHawk15 wrote:I consider San Diego, Minnesota, NYG, Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland to have the best offensive lines, in terms of run blocking. Minnesota, NYG, Jacksonville, and Philly have their entire line from last season intact. Tampa Bay and Cleveland actually upgraded after last year's dominant performances, with Jeff Faine and Rex Hadnot respectively.
The problem with the FF Toolbox rankings is that they are looking at both pass and run blocking together. Thus, both Green Bay and New Orleans have inflated rankings, because their excellent pass blocking overcompensates for their mediocre run blocking.
The strength of Jacksonville and Cleveland's lines, especially, make MJD and Jamal Lewis especially compelling RB2's.
does anybody have a link for top run blocking lines? if not, does anybody feel frisky enough to throw out their rank for the teams listed here above
VHawk15 wrote:I consider San Diego, Minnesota, NYG, Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland to have the best offensive lines, in terms of run blocking. Minnesota, NYG, Jacksonville, and Philly have their entire line from last season intact. Tampa Bay and Cleveland actually upgraded after last year's dominant performances, with Jeff Faine and Rex Hadnot respectively.
The problem with the FF Toolbox rankings is that they are looking at both pass and run blocking together. Thus, both Green Bay and New Orleans have inflated rankings, because their excellent pass blocking overcompensates for their mediocre run blocking.
The strength of Jacksonville and Cleveland's lines, especially, make MJD and Jamal Lewis especially compelling RB2's.
does anybody have a link for top run blocking lines? if not, does anybody feel frisky enough to throw out their rank for the teams listed here above
I don't have time to do this right now, but I'll be happy to try to break them down as run and pass blocking lines. I hope to have a first iteration sometime after this weekend and I'll put up O-line ranking compilations (albeit, generic not run/pass specific) in the early part of August.
Good to see Jacksonville finally getting some mention in this discussion (I've been preaching this for the last year straight, and I hate the Jags), but they're still way underrated. Top 2 is where they should be.
Fred Taylor never averaged 5 yards per carry in a season.....until he turned 31. He averaged 5.4 yards per carry, almost a full yard higher than his career average headed into the year, last year at the age of THIRTY TWO!
Running backs don't suddenly get better when they hit the age of 31-32. I'm sure splitting some time with MJD has helped some, but it's not the first time he's split time and he has several other seasons to his credit where he averaged nearly the same number of carries per game and his ypc was nowhere near as high, and that was back when he was in his mid 20's!
I don't know if the Jets O-line will be top 10 but they will increase dramtically with the additions of Alan Faneca at guard and Damien Woody at Right Tackle to go along with Mangold, D'Brick and Brandon Moore. T.Jones should be in for a much better season than last season.
Likewise, I look for Miami's O-Line to be better, at least in terms of run blocking. Drafting Big Jake (thereby allowing Carey to move back to RT), on top of acquiring Smiley fro SF should make for a better O-Line.
deerayfan072 wrote:I think the Bucs O-Line will be top 10 this season
Faine is a huge boost to the Center position, Joeseph and Trueblood enter their 3rd season, and Sears is only going to get better in his second season. They will open holes, it will be up to Gruden to call run plays.
Sears needs to be a Pro Bowler this year. Not really a question of if he will step up his game, but rather will enough people take notice to where he is voted in. That kid is a stud. B.J. Askew already went, and also helps open holes. I REALLY like our run blocking this year.
But don't start with this "we'll sign Kevin Jones" foolishness. Highly unlikely.