Warner & Leinart

[dream_017]

I don't like the strategy either. What about the bye week, now you need a 3rd QB on your team or drop one of these guys. I would rather take 2 other guys with the chance that their team is successful than to bank on the Arizona passing game to be successful. This is not saying that the Arizona passing game is will not be good, but you are putting a lot of eggs in one basket....and I would be scared

[LS2throwed]

When I am thinking about platooning QBs in a 12-teamer, I usually try to time it so that I am getting the 11th starter off the board, and the 2nd backup, and maybe a flier on someone that seems to be falling. I am looking for two or three guys with a decent amount of upside - guys that have weapons to throw to, but maybe haven't proven themselves yet as fantasy studs or are coming off a down year. I kinda like the value that Delhomme, Schaub, Rodgers, and Kitna could deliver this year. Those guys will all be a bit low because you can't be sure what they are going to do, but they are boom-or-bust guys, and that's what you want if you are platooning QBs.

Thing about this is sometimes it can wreck your season, last year I tried it and took fliers on Leinart and Losman, you can obviously guess how that panned out Both guys were young and looked like they could be decent breakout candidates or at least guys you could rotate with decent matchups...Again that was just how my situation panned out, I could of taken Eli and Cutler and it would of worked out better, now I ended up making the playoffs but I was wheeling and dealing all year to find a decent QB play and when I moved enough to land Palmer he played horrible during the fantasy playoffs.


Now I prefer to have something at least a little more solid at QB, then you can just get a decent bye week play later on, but I would prefer to have somebody I can rely on at QB and judging from Leinarts past few seasons he may very well end up a bust again this year.

[Axl's Army]

Leinart in the 9th is a little early, and Warner in the 10th is just awful. I've done over 9000 10-team 15 round mocks this year and I think I've seen Warner taken once.

Seriously?

Seriously? I mean seriously? When was the last time you were laid?

[knapplc]

Leinart in the 9th is a little early, and Warner in the 10th is just awful. I've done over 9000 10-team 15 round mocks this year and I think I've seen Warner taken once.

Seriously?

Seriously? I mean seriously? When was the last time you were laid?

Come again?

[My team is injured]

It would potentially be a decent strategy depending on the number of teams in your league and whatnot, which rounds to do it in aside, if it wasn't for that what the hell is Whisenhunt doing QBBC thing he had going before Leinart got hurt last year (and even continuing with Rattay a bit at the goal-line when Warner was dealing with the hand injury). I only saw it alluded to in one reply so far, but last year, both Leinart and Warner were seeing their share of snaps and leading entire drives during the early part of the season, hence, significantly limiting the value of either during this stretch of games. I don't expect that to happen again, but I absolutely didn't expect it in the first place so who knows.

Aside from the QBBC risk, I don't see much of an issue with the premise of this strategy though I haven't done QB rankings and projections yet for this season. IIRC, I used this strategy in one of my leagues last year that was quite QB thin since it was a 14-teamer. While it certainly didn't work out to start the season due to the QBBC situation, I wouldn't necessarily shy away from doing it again if the value was there as I don't see much risk aside from Whisenhunt potentially rotating QBs again (though it also depends on how I feel Leinart will do this year and I haven't analyzed that yet).

And for the poster questioning if Warner can still get the job done, he more than did so last year, and it's hard for him to get any slower and older than he has been for the past several seasons. In the 11 games he started, he threw at least 2 TDs in 9 of them, and that's with Rattay stealing 3 on goal-line situations subbing in for Warner as well as the Carolina game in which he left after only 2 pass attempts after getting injured (and this injury risk game to game is probably the only real downside to Warner). He also averaged over 280 passing YPG during his 10 starts after that Carolina one.

I don't like the strategy either. What about the bye week, now you need a 3rd QB on your team or drop one of these guys.

The main risk I see with this strategy is the QBBC thing, but if that doesn't happen, then the bye week likely won't be much of a factor. AZ will have played 6 games by the time the bye week comes around, and whoever is the backup QB at that point can likely be dropped and picked back up if desired after the bye without anyone else going after him. If both Warner and Leinart have been making starts through the first 6 weeks, then you'd likely need to drop another player to pick up a 3rd QB, but otherwise, I think it would be a non-issue to drop the one of them whose a backup at that point.

[Wenchtamer]

Leinart in the 9th is a little early, and Warner in the 10th is just awful. I've done over 9000 10-team 15 round mocks this year and I think I've seen Warner taken once.

Seriously?

Seriously? I mean seriously? When was the last time you were laid?

No I haven't really done 9000...."over 9000" is an internet meme. Youtube "9000" if you are curious. It's just an expression to say you've done a lot.

The actual number is in the hundreds, though.

[Axl's Army]

No I haven't really done 9000...."over 9000" is an internet meme. Youtube "9000" if you are curious. It's just an expression to say you've done a lot.

The actual number is in the hundreds, though.

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Well that's a relief. At ease soldier. Keep up the good work.

[Dan Lambskin]

No I haven't really done 9000...."over 9000" is an internet meme. Youtube "9000" if you are curious. It's just an expression to say you've done a lot.

The actual number is in the hundreds, though.

still impossible...everyone knows 24 is the highest number

[LS2throwed]

Just as I expected...per roto:

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt wouldn't rule out using Kurt Warner in a specialist's role again this season.
"I wouldn't anticipate it," Whisenhunt said, "but I wouldn't rule it out." Before Matt Leinart's fractured collarbone last season, Warner had emerged as the team's designated no-huddle quarterback. Though Whisenhunt has backed Leinart as the starter, Warner claims he's been told it's a competition. Preseason action should give us a better read on the situation, but the specialist's role would kill both quarterbacks' potential starting value.

This is why I don't even bother with Leinart this year, or have high expectations for him just yet...Do we hear these same things about Cutler? Leinart still hasn't "won" the job outright, and the sad thing is its Kurt Warner who can't take care of the ball...I'd stay away, these things aren't encouraging.