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Postby Stelly » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:40 pm

Where does Peyton Manning's value fall this year in a 10-team league (QB scoring is 1pt/20yds passing, 6pts/TD and -2pts/INT)?

I've never been fond of drafting a QB very early, but in my 10 team keeper league (where my #6 overall pick is pretty much a mid second round pick in redraft), I may be in a spot where Manning falls to me. If I don't take him, my best options would be MJD or McGahee @ RB or Chad Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald @ WR. I am keeping Gore in the 3rd as my RB1.

So my question is this - where do you draft Manning this year? Mid-second round? Early third? Not at all - build WR and RB depth early on?

Thanks!
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby woodson_28 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:21 pm

Stelly wrote:Where does Peyton Manning's value fall this year in a 10-team league (QB scoring is 1pt/20yds passing, 6pts/TD and -2pts/INT)?

I've never been fond of drafting a QB very early, but in my 10 team keeper league (where my #6 overall pick is pretty much a mid second round pick in redraft), I may be in a spot where Manning falls to me. If I don't take him, my best options would be MJD or McGahee @ RB or Chad Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald @ WR.

So my question is this - where do you draft Manning this year? Mid-second round? Early third? Not at all - build WR and RB depth early on?

Thanks!


Does the 6pts/TD mean that passing TD's are worth 6pts? If so, then that makes a stud QB worth a little bit more. That being the case, I think you could argue using a 2nd rd pick on Manning - or 3rd pick on Romo. If you miss out of those two, then I'd just wait because those are the only 2 QB's (other than Brady who's price is too high IMO) that are a guarantee 30+ TD's.
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby Stelly » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:39 am

woodson_28 wrote:
Stelly wrote:Where does Peyton Manning's value fall this year in a 10-team league (QB scoring is 1pt/20yds passing, 6pts/TD and -2pts/INT)?

I've never been fond of drafting a QB very early, but in my 10 team keeper league (where my #6 overall pick is pretty much a mid second round pick in redraft), I may be in a spot where Manning falls to me. If I don't take him, my best options would be MJD or McGahee @ RB or Chad Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald @ WR.

So my question is this - where do you draft Manning this year? Mid-second round? Early third? Not at all - build WR and RB depth early on?

Thanks!


Does the 6pts/TD mean that passing TD's are worth 6pts? If so, then that makes a stud QB worth a little bit more. That being the case, I think you could argue using a 2nd rd pick on Manning - or 3rd pick on Romo. If you miss out of those two, then I'd just wait because those are the only 2 QB's (other than Brady who's price is too high IMO) that are a guarantee 30+ TD's.


Yes, it is 6pts per passing TD. I've always felt that whether it's 6pts per TD or 4pts per TD, that it effects all QBs equally, and you shouldn't bump them in the rankings because of this.
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby FatFoot » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:52 am

Stelly wrote:
Yes, it is 6pts per passing TD. I've always felt that whether it's 6pts per TD or 4pts per TD, that it effects all QBs equally, and you shouldn't bump them in the rankings because of this.


I don't like that way of thinking. Due to positional scarcity, if you bump up all QBs value by 50%, that makes it all that much more important to get a top QB. In other words, if they're going to put up more points than RBs or WRs, there's reason to consider drafting them before RBs and WRs. I'd still go RB first this year, but I'd think that a 6/td passing system puts Brady in the first round, and Peyton, as well as maybe Brees and Romo, in the second round.

We switched my main league to auction drafting, and honestly, I can't imagine going back.
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby dream_017 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:51 am

I don't draft him because somebody will draft him prior to him reaching my value for him ;-7
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby treat24 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:04 pm

dream_017 wrote:I don't draft him because somebody will draft him prior to him reaching my value for him ;-7


That almost always happens for me as well.
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby Stelly » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:09 pm

treat24 wrote:
dream_017 wrote:I don't draft him because somebody will draft him prior to him reaching my value for him ;-7


That almost always happens for me as well.


So what is your value for him?
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby treat24 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:13 pm

oh sorry man, almost forgot the question. I would prefer him at the 2nd turn. end of round 2, start of round 3. At that point I feel I can get a decent RB2 or great WR1 to pair. Someone always grabs him before then though. I'm not a QB early guy, but I think a big reason for that is because people reach for them before I would...
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby dream_017 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:21 pm

Stelly wrote:
treat24 wrote:
dream_017 wrote:I don't draft him because somebody will draft him prior to him reaching my value for him ;-7


That almost always happens for me as well.


So what is your value for him?

157.2702 ;-7

Oh, you would probably need the rest of my values for that to make sense :-b

About the same as Treat, late second to early 3rd in a 10-team league. He will never be there at that point
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Re: Peyton Manning's Value

Postby FatFoot » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:28 pm

Would you take him earlier than that if passing TDs were 6 pts?
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