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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby ShoelessJoe » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:50 am

Free Bagel wrote:
ShoelessJoe wrote:Wisconsin over Ohio State? Didn't Wisconsin trail Marshall by 2 TD's in the 2nd quarter last week? I know Ohio State lost Wells and wasn't impressive against Ohio but are they that bad?


How does this make any sense? You're saying Wisconsin can't be as good because they trailed Marshall early before opening the floodgates and pouring on a 51-14 victory, but the team you're saying they can't be better than trailed a worse team much later in the game and won closely after that team had a few special teams blunders. Ohio played OSU almost evenly on offense (OSU outgained them by only 18 yards), and Boeckman averged 4 yards per attempt......passing.


Ok, I see that my argument was flawed.

However, I still have a hard time putting a Wisconsin team ahead of Ohio State when Ohio State returns basically their entire team from a NC runner up squad. Sure, you have your Michigans of the world where no matter how talented and how many players you return you're just awful but for the most part, when teams return a huge number of talented players, those teams are pretty good (think USC (04-05) and LSU (06-07)). That logic is nonetheless equally flawed but I just think OSU is a better team than they showed in the Ohio game.
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby VaderFin » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:13 pm

By this point in the season I already could care less what you did last year. Ohio State dropped in my ranking because they barely beat Ohio with a back up QB. If they beat USC they will go up and if they lose they go way down. Show me on the field. As for Wisconsin...they won in a landslide you can't hold a quarter of play against em.


Miami got some votes. :-b
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:33 pm

VaderFin wrote:By this point in the season I already could care less what you did last year. Ohio State dropped in my ranking because they barely beat Ohio with a back up QB. If they beat USC they will go up and if they lose they go way down. Show me on the field. As for Wisconsin...they won in a landslide you can't hold a quarter of play against em.


Miami got some votes. :-b


depending on the score they could be in the 20's IMO.
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby knapplc » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:27 pm

Miami got a vote from me because they looked a lot better than a lot of teams I've been watching. I've watched at least one quarter of about 20 games so far this year, and over half of those, I watched over half. I've probably watched six full games (on my kitchen TV - my daughter has taken over the family room ;-7 ).

From what I've seen, Miami (FL) has a competitive team. There are a LOT worse teams out there. A lot.
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:40 pm

knapplc wrote:Miami got a vote from me because they looked a lot better than a lot of teams I've been watching. I've watched at least one quarter of about 20 games so far this year, and over half of those, I watched over half. I've probably watched six full games (on my kitchen TV - my daughter has taken over the family room ;-7 ).

From what I've seen, Miami (FL) has a competitive team. There are a LOT worse teams out there. A lot.


They showed me a lot in the game against us. They have a lot of speed. I think Miami's OC had too conservative of a gameplan against us though. Their defense is back though.
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby HskrPwr13 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:55 pm

FYI......My poll, Sandrock's, and Bagel's are all identical. I know thats not my poll, so one of the other two is probably wrong also.

EDIT** Heres mine for everyone's enjoyment. I'm sure Bagel has been waiting with bated breath.

01. USC
02. Oklahoma
03. Florida
04. Georgia
05. Missouri
06. East Carolina
07. Alabama
08. Texas
09. Oregon
10. Wisconsin
11. LSU
12. Ohio State
13. Texas Tech
14. Auburn
15. Fresno State
16. Wake Forest
17. Kansas
18. Arizona St
19. Penn St
20. South Florida
21. Brigham Young
22. UCLA
23. California
24. Utah
25. Vanderbilt
26. Minnesota
27. Kentucky
28. Arkansas State
29. Nebraska
30. Georgia Tech
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby deerayfan072 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:29 pm

HskrPwr13 wrote:FYI......My poll, Sandrock's, and Bagel's are all identical. I know thats not my poll, so one of the other two is probably wrong also.

EDIT** Heres mine for everyone's enjoyment. I'm sure Bagel has been waiting with bated breath.

01. USC
02. Oklahoma
03. Florida
04. Georgia
05. Missouri
06. East Carolina
07. Alabama
08. Texas
09. Oregon
10. Wisconsin
11. LSU
12. Ohio State
13. Texas Tech
14. Auburn
15. Fresno State
16. Wake Forest
17. Kansas
18. Arizona St
19. Penn St
20. South Florida
21. Brigham Young
22. UCLA
23. California
24. Utah
25. Vanderbilt
26. Minnesota
27. Kentucky
28. Arkansas State
29. Nebraska
30. Georgia Tech


I fixed it ;-D

Sorry guys :-/
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby Cowboys 4 life » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:31 pm

The soonest I can get mine in weekly is Wednesday. Looks like I always miss the deadline. I don't want to hold up the rankings so maybe I can act as an alternate if someone can't get theirs in.

Let me know DeeRay.
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby Sandrock » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:07 pm

I almost put Miami in my top 30 because their defense was impressive for almost that entire game. If their Offense had done anything through the first 3 quarters I can easily see them pulling that upset.

I'm not ready to jump on the Arizona State bandwagon yet. Their O-line has been porous in the last few years and I haven't seen anything yet to tell me the problems have been fixed. Stanford is a program on the rise but they can't be considered decent competition yet. We'll get an accurate reading when Georgia visits Sun Devil Stadium in a few weeks.
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Re: Week 3 Cafe Rankings Poll and Discussion

Postby knapplc » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:27 pm

Hskr - Nebraska belongs nowhere near your top 30 yet. I've watched both games, and they are not ready for that ranking.
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