1. USC 2. Oklahoma 3. Georgia 4. Missouri 5. Florida 6. LSU 7. Wisconsin 8. Texas 9. Alabama 10. Auburn 11. Texas Tech 12. South Florida 13. Penn State 14. East Carolina 15. Brigham Young 16. Oregon 17. Ohio State 18. Kansas 19. Wake 20. Utah 21. West Virginia 22. Illinois 23. Fresno State 24. Clemson 25. Florida State
Vader
1 Oklahoma 2 USC 3 Missouri 4 LSU 5 Georgia 6 Florida 7 Texas 8 Wisconsin 9 Auburn 10 Alabama 11 Texas Tech 12 South Florida 13 BYU 14 East Carolina 15 Oregon 16 Ohio State 17 Penn State 18 Wake Forest 19 Kansas 20 Utah 21 West Virginia 22 North Carolina 23 Illinois 24 Clemson 25 Fresno State 26 Vanderbilt 27 Kentucky 28 TCU 29 Oklahoma State 30 Boise State
ORS
1 USC 2 Georgia 3 Oklahoma 4 Florida 5 Missouri 6 LSU 7 Wisconsin 8 Texas 9 Alabama 10 Texas Tech 11 Auburn 12 Ohio State 13 Brigham Young 14 South Florida 15 East Carolina 16 Penn State 17 Wake Forest 18 Oregon 19 Utah 20 West Virginia 21 Kansas 22 Illinois 23 Florida State 24 Clemson 25 Fresno State 26 Vanderbilt 27 Boise State 28 Oklahoma State 29 Nebraska 30 TCU
BlueBandit24
1-USC 2-Georgia 3-Oklahoma 4-Florida 5-Missouri 6-LSU 7-Texas 8-Alabama 9-Wisconsin 10-Auburn 11-Texas Tech 12-Ohio State 13-South Florida 14-East Carolina 15-Oregon 16-Penn State 17-BYU 18-Kansas 19-Wake Forest 20-Utah 21-Illinois 22-Fresno State 23-West Virginia 24-Clemson 25-Florida State 26-Virginia Tech 27-Kentucky 28-TCU 29-Arizona State 30-North Carolina
Knapp
1 USC 2 Georgia 3 Oklahoma 4 Florida 5 Missouri 6 LSU 7 Texas 8 Auburn 9 Wisconsin 10 Texas Tech 11 Brigham Young 12 South Florida 13 Oregon 14 Penn State 15 Kansas 16 East Carolina 17 Alabama 18 Utah 19 Ohio State 20 Wake Forest 21 Illinois 22 Virginia Tech 23 West Virginia 24 Fresno State 25 Arizona State 26 Tennessee 27 Miami (Fla.) 28 Connecticut 29 Florida State 30 Clemson
Bagel
1 USC 2 Georgia 3 Oklahoma 4 Missouri 5 LSU 6 Florida 7 Wisconsin 8 Texas 9 Penn State 10 Auburn 11 Alabama 12 South Florida 13 Texas Tech 14 East Carolina 15 BYU 16 Oregon 17 Illinois 18 Kansas 19 Ohio State 20 West Virginia 21 Wake Forest 22 Utah 23 Boston College 24 FSU 25 Tennessee 26 Fresno State 27 Clemson 28 California 29 TCU 30 Kentucky
HskrPwr13
01.USC 02.Oklahoma 03.Mizzou 04.Florida 05.Georgia 06.East Carolina 07.Alabama 08.Wisconsin 09.Texas 10.Oregon 11.LSU 12.Texas Tech 13.Auburn 14.South Florida 15.Utah 16.Wake Forest 17.Brigham Young 18.Vanderbilt 19.Penn St 20.Kansas 21.Minnesota 22.TCU 23.Nebraska 24.Iowa 25.Oklahoma St 26.Air Force 27.Virginia Tech 28.Georgia Tech 29.Fresno State 30.California
Deeray
1 USC 2 Oklahoma 3 Georgia 4 Missouri 5 LSU 6 Florida 7 Wisconsin 8 Penn State 9 Texas 10 Texas Tech 11 Alabama 12 Auburn 13 Oregon 14 South Florida 15 Wake 16 ECU 17 BYU 18 Utah 19 Ohio State 20 Illinois 21 Kansas 22 West Virginia 23 Fresno State 24 Vanderbilt 25 Nebraska 26 Clemson 27 North Carolina 28 Tennessee 29 VT 30 TCU
AFF
1. USC 2. Georgia 3. Oklahoma 4. Missouri 5. Florida 6. Wisconsin 7. LSU 8. Texas 9. Penn St. 10. Auburn 11. Alabama 12. South Florida 13. East Carolina 14. Texas Tech 15. BYU 16. Ohio St. 17. Oregon 18. West Virginia 19. Kansas 20. Nebraska 21. Utah 22. Wake Forest 23. Vanderbilt 24. UNC 25. Clemson 26. Fresno St. 27. Virginia Tech 28. Florida St. 29. Arkansas 30. Connecticut
Jay
USC Oklahoma Georgia Missouri Florida Wisconsin LSU Penn State South Florida Texas Texas Tech Alabama Ohio State Brigham Young East Carolina Kansas Florida State Auburn Oregon Wake Forest Fresno State West Virginia Illinois Clemson Utah Oklahoma State Vanderbilt Michigan State Nebraska Notre Dame
Mugrila
USC Georgia Oklahoma Florida Missouri Wisconsin Auburn LSU Texas Texas Tech Alabama BYU ECU Oregon Penn State USF Illinois Kansas Wake Forest West Virginia Utah Fresno State Boise State Clemson Arizona State Kansas State Virginia Tech Uconn Florida State Olkahoma St
Last edited by deerayfan072 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
I've watched all three of Nebraska's games, the last one live and in person. There is reason for optimism, yes - but top 25? I'm not so sure about that yet. There's a lot of things they're not doing well right now.
If NU beats Virginia Tech in two weeks then I'm all over them. Until then... this is MAJOR speculation.
I've watched all three of Nebraska's games, the last one live and in person. There is reason for optimism, yes - but top 25? I'm not so sure about that yet. There's a lot of things they're not doing well right now.
If NU beats Virginia Tech in two weeks then I'm all over them. Until then... this is MAJOR speculation.
Thing is, you guys have a very solid offense with Lucky and Gantz. They put up great numbers last year, but they couldn't stop anyone. I don't think the defense is fully back, but they are on there way. When you can score and make a decent number of stops in a game you will be in every game with a chance to win it. I haven't seen all of each game like you, so I could be wrong, but what I saw was what I said above and that made me put them where I did.
Also, they have beaten 3 opponents all better than FSU's 2 wins, yet FSU is in the top 25.
Why does everybody have Kansas ahead of Ohio State?
Kansas beat two scrubs, then lost to South Florida. Ohio State beat two scrubs, then lost to USC. Granted, USC but a bigger whipping on Ohio State but USC is #1 team in the majority of people's polls while USF averages 12th.
I've watched all three of Nebraska's games, the last one live and in person. There is reason for optimism, yes - but top 25? I'm not so sure about that yet. There's a lot of things they're not doing well right now.
If NU beats Virginia Tech in two weeks then I'm all over them. Until then... this is MAJOR speculation.
As I said last week, and deeray mentioned it, its that they grade out. To help eliminate bias you cant go fully by the "eye test". I agree that they havent looked like world beaters, but outside the top10-15, who has? You really believe that at this point in the young season that these teams have EARNED the ranking that you're givinig them: Ohio St, Illinois, Fresno St, Florida St, Arizona St, Clemson? I can agree that most if not all of these teams may seem either more talented or better gelled, but PLEASE, lets actually take the results into question, when ranking. Yes, Frensno played a nice game that they shouldve won, but at the end of the day, this is a 1-1 football team. Probably the best 1-1 team out there, but they have a loss at home, and a road win that looked great at the time, but now North Carolina went in there and punked them worse than Fresno did. Ohio St? Really? They've "looked" like on the best 25 teams so far? I think you need to go in for an eye exam, knapp.
ShoelessJoe wrote:Why does everybody have Kansas ahead of Ohio State?
Kansas beat two scrubs, then lost to South Florida. Ohio State beat two scrubs, then lost to USC. Granted, USC but a bigger whipping on Ohio State but USC is #1 team in the majority of people's polls while USF averages 12th.
Kansas is better than OSU, easy. KU lost, barely, to a very good South Florida team, at their house, at night. It was a last-second field goal that beat them, and then only after KU had one bad quarter (the third) where they were just... flat.
OSU, as everyone saw, had absolutely no business on the same field as USC. It wasn't even close. Had OSU even put up a fight in that game I'd consider putting the two closer, but as of today, I would be pretty certain that KU would beat OSU on OSU's field. In fact, I'm pretty certain of it.
To be honest, I'm a bit surprised you even ask the question. It makes me wonder how much you've seen of the four teams.
HskrPwr13 wrote:As I said last week, and deeray mentioned it, its that they grade out. To help eliminate bias you cant go fully by the "eye test". I agree that they havent looked like world beaters, but outside the top10-15, who has? You really believe that at this point in the young season that these teams have EARNED the ranking that you're givinig them: Ohio St, Illinois, Fresno St, Florida St, Arizona St, Clemson? I can agree that most if not all of these teams may seem either more talented or better gelled, but PLEASE, lets actually take the results into question, when ranking. Yes, Frensno played a nice game that they shouldve won, but at the end of the day, this is a 1-1 football team. Probably the best 1-1 team out there, but they have a loss at home, and a road win that looked great at the time, but now North Carolina went in there and punked them worse than Fresno did. Ohio St? Really? They've "looked" like on the best 25 teams so far? I think you need to go in for an eye exam, knapp.
You may think they grade out, but I don't. Like I said, having watched all of Nebraska's games, they have big questions to answer that, frankly, they haven't answered yet. Further, they keep losing D-linemen and they're down to a redshirt freshman on one rush end.
Do I KNOW that all of the teams I've ranked have EARNED their ranking? Of course not. But I know what top-25 football looks like, and right now, Nebraska doesn't look like a top-25 team. Believe me, I want them to be up there just as much as anyone. But they're not.
I will say this. Having watched their games I will guarantee you that Bo is keeping stuff back for VT, Missouri and Oklahoma. They are not showing the full playbook on either side of the ball, and that's limited Nebraska's output. But there are enough mental mistakes being made that should NOT be happening, especially on offense where the team has the most consistency from last year to this, that makes me concerned about the future.
ShoelessJoe wrote:Why does everybody have Kansas ahead of Ohio State?
Kansas beat two scrubs, then lost to South Florida. Ohio State beat two scrubs, then lost to USC. Granted, USC but a bigger whipping on Ohio State but USC is #1 team in the majority of people's polls while USF averages 12th.
Kansas is better than OSU, easy. KU lost, barely, to a very good South Florida team, at their house, at night. It was a last-second field goal that beat them, and then only after KU had one bad quarter (the third) where they were just... flat.
OSU, as everyone saw, had absolutely no business on the same field as USC. It wasn't even close. Had OSU even put up a fight in that game I'd consider putting the two closer, but as of today, I would be pretty certain that KU would beat OSU on OSU's field. In fact, I'm pretty certain of it.
To be honest, I'm a bit surprised you even ask the question. It makes me wonder how much you've seen of the four teams.
I watched the entire Kansas/USF game and the entire USC/OSU game.
You said that OSU had no business on the same field as USC. Would Kansas have any business on the same field as USC? Do you think Kansas would be more competitive with USC?
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