Week 8 Cafe Poll and Discussion

[deerayfan072]

Top 25

Texas
Alabama
Penn State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Florida
Texas Tech
USC
Georgia
Brigham Young
Missouri
Ohio State
Utah
LSU
Boise State
Kansas
Virginia Tech
Michigan State
North Carolina
South Florida
Pittsburgh
Wake Forest
Ball State
Vanderbilt
California


Hskpwr13

01.Texas
02. Alabama
03. Oklahoma St
04. Oklahoma
05. Penn St
06. Utah
07. Boise St
08. Brigham Young
09. USC
10. Georgia
11. Florida
12. Mizzou
13. Texas Tech
14. Pittsburgh
15. Ohio State
16. South Florida
17. Virginia Tech
18. North Carolina
19. Kansas
20. Ball State
21. Tulsa
22. California
23. Michigan St
24. Minnesota
25. Northwestern
26. TCU
27. Wake Forest
28. LSU
29. Georgia Tech
30. Vanderbilt

BlueBandit24

1-Alabama
2-Texas
3-Penn State
4-USC
5-Oklahoma
6-Florida
7-Oklahoma State
8-Georgia
9-Missouri
10-Texas Tech
11-BYU
12-LSU
13-Ohio State
14-Kansas
15-Utah
16-Boise State
17-Virginia Tech
18-North Carolina
19-Michigan State
20-Wake Forest
21-Pittsburgh
22-South Florida
23-California
24-TCU
25-Tulsa
26-Ball State
27-Vanderbilt
28-Florida State
29-Georgia Tech
30-Minnesota

AFF

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. Penn St.
4. Oklahoma St.
5. Texas Tech
6. Oklahoma
7. Georgia
8. Florida
9. USC
10. BYU
11. LSU
12. Missouri
13. Ohio St.
14. Virginia Tech
15. Kansas
16. Utah
17. Michigan St.
18. Vanderbilt
19. Ball St.
20. Boise St.
21. Pittsburgh
22. Florida St.
23. South Carolina
24. UNC
25. Georgia Tech
26. Wake Forest
27. Cincinnati
28. Minnesota
29. California
30. Northwestern

Knapplc

1 Alabama
2 Texas
3 Penn State
4 Texas Tech
5 Oklahoma
6 USC
7 Florida
8 Oklahoma State
9 Georgia
10 Missouri
11 BYU
12 Ohio State
13 LSU
14 Kansas
15 Utah
16 Boise State
17 Virginia Tech
18 North Carolina
19 Pittsburgh
20 Ball State
21 South Florida
22 Tulsa
23 Wake Forest
24 Minnesota
25 Michigan State
26 Florida State
27 Vanderbilt
28 Oregon
29 Northwestern
30 TCU

Sandrock

1. Texas
2. Penn State
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. Texas Tech
6. Florida
7. USC
8. Brigham Young
9. Missouri
10. Georgia
11. Ohio State
12. Utah
13. Oklahoma State
14. Boise State
15. Kansas
16. LSU
17. Michigan State
18. Virginia Tech
19. South Florida
20. Wake Forest
21. Vanderbilt
22. North Carolina
23. TCU
24. California
25. Tulsa
26. Pittsburgh
27. Ball State
28. Georgia Tech
29. Cincinnati
30. Florida State

FreeBagel

1 Texas
2 Alabama
3 Penn State
4 Oklahoma
5 Florida
6 Oklahoma State
7 Georgia
8 Missouri
9 BYU
10 Texas Tech
11 USC
12 LSU
13 Ohio State
14 South Florida
15 Kansas
16 Boise State
17 Utah
18 Virginia Tech
19 North Carolina
20 Michigan State
21 Wake Forest
22 Pittsburgh
23 California
24 Vanderbilt
25 Minnesota
26 Kentucky
27 South Carolina
28 Ball State
29 Georgia Tech
30 FSU

Mugrila

Alabama
Texas
Penn State
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
BYU
Oklahoma
Florida
USC
UGA
Ohio State
Missouri
LSU
Utah
Michigan State
Kansas
Virginia Tech
Boise State
North Carolina
TCU
California
Wake Forest
USF
Vanderbilt
Ball State
Kansas
Florida State
Minnesota
Oregon
South Carolina

Deeray

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. Oklahoma
5. Florida
6. Texas Tech
7. Oklahoma State
8. Georgia
9. USC
10. Missouri
11. BYU
12. Ohio State
13. LSU
14. Utah
15. Virginia Tech
16. Michigan State
17. Boise State
18. Kansas
19. North Carolina
20. Pittsburgh
21. South Florida
22. Wake Forest
23. Georgia Tech
24. Ball State
25. Vanderbilt
26. Tulsa
27. Minnesota
28. South Carolina
29. TCU
30. California

[Free Bagel]

I'm shocked that Texas Tech moved up overall.

I know that Missou lost, and I know that past seasons aren't supposed to play a role, but just like usual as soon as TT stepped onto the field with an even barely competent opponent they go to overtime. I suppose I could cut them more slack if we hadn't seen them repeat the same thing year after year after year after year after year, and then do it again here the first chance they get.

[Sandrock]

I'm shocked that Texas Tech moved up overall.

I know that Missou lost, and I know that past seasons aren't supposed to play a role, but just like usual as soon as TT stepped onto the field with an even barely competent opponent they go to overtime. I suppose I could cut them more slack if we hadn't seen them repeat the same thing year after year after year after year after year, and then do it again here the first chance they get.

Even though Nebraska can barely qualify as a competent opponent at least Texas Tech came away with the win. I'm cutting them slack for now since their offense is incredible if it's firing on all cylinders and hopefully their D can fall into line. We'll see what they're really made of in the next couple of weeks.

[HskrPwr13]

I'm shocked that Texas Tech moved up overall.

I know that Missou lost, and I know that past seasons aren't supposed to play a role, but just like usual as soon as TT stepped onto the field with an even barely competent opponent they go to overtime. I suppose I could cut them more slack if we hadn't seen them repeat the same thing year after year after year after year after year, and then do it again here the first chance they get.

Even though Nebraska can barely qualify as a competent opponent at least Texas Tech came away with the win. I'm cutting them slack for now since their offense is incredible if it's firing on all cylinders and hopefully their D can fall into line. We'll see what they're really made of in the next couple of weeks.

Alright, alright. Its gettin' a little deep in here. Normally, at 3-3 I wouldnt defend my boys, but you're talking like they're Washington, Syracuse, etc. They had a bad loss against Mizzou, but took two other ranked teams to the wire (TT and VT), and beat all their non-BCS, non-FCS four or more scores. I guess then 75% of FBS teams would have to be considered barely competent.

I agree that TT is probably overrated. I would argue the same for Fla and USC although their competition in the rankings keep gagging. I would also argue that if Okie St was a different OSU or if they'r acronym was LSU, they'd be ranked higher. Sandrock, how does Okie St remain 4 spots below Mizzou?

[Metroid]

Sandrock, how does Okie St remain 4 spots below Mizzou?

Yeah I don't get that either, how can they be behind Brigham Young, Georgia, Ohio State, and Utah as well.

[knapplc]

Something to note about Nebraska - their Strength of Schedule is #1, according to CBS Sportsline. Despite that, they've played two ranked opponents to within a TD each, one on their home field in a game the Huskers lost on a fluke play in overtime.

Does this mean Nebraska is a good team? Nope. It just means that all 3-3 records are not equal.





Does anyone have any other SOS rankings that are updated weekly? CBS' was the only one I could find...

[Sandrock]

My Beavers have the #10 ranked SoS, a win over a #1 team and they still classify as barely a competent team at this point in the season. And look at that, they're 3-3 too.

As for Oklahoma State, how can anyone possibly rank them so high? Their toughest games up to the point of the Missouri game were Troy and Texas A&M (cakewalks basically). So they beat Missouri and all of a sudden they're top 10 material after playing....nobody? I need to see something else before they're all of a sudden a top 10 team.

I'm not going to jump a team drastically just for having a big win without any other evidence to build a case. If that were the case I would have at least ranked my Beavers after upsetting the #1 team in the country.

[Metroid]

My Beavers have the #10 ranked SoS, a win over a #1 team and they still classify as barely a competent team at this point in the season. And look at that, they're 3-3 too.

As for Oklahoma State, how can anyone possibly rank them so high? Their toughest games up to the point of the Missouri game were Troy and Texas A&M (cakewalks basically). So they beat Missouri and all of a sudden they're top 10 material after playing....nobody? I need to see something else before they're all of a sudden a top 10 team.

I'm not going to jump a team drastically just for having a big win without any other evidence to build a case. If that were the case I would have at least ranked my Beavers after upsetting the #1 team in the country.

But Okie St. did play somebody, they played Mizzou and beat them and they're undefeated. You have Utah ranked ahead of Okie St.....who have they played? Can't say the same for the Beavs, yeah they beat #1 but they're also 3-3, really I think the Beavs are A LOT better than what their record shows.

Oklahoma State may have only one win against a ranked team and a bunch of cupcake wins but they have looked awesome all year, and in my opinion they are one of the better teams in the country right now. I could be wrong about them but I just can't see leaving them out of the top 10 right now.

It's all subjective though and different people rank different. Some people go by wins and losses and who's played who, while others rank based on who they feel are the better teams...and some do a combo of the 2. Nobody's right and nobody's wrong, it's all a matter of opinion really.

[HskrPwr13]

My Beavers have the #10 ranked SoS, a win over a #1 team and they still classify as barely a competent team at this point in the season. And look at that, they're 3-3 too.

As for Oklahoma State, how can anyone possibly rank them so high? Their toughest games up to the point of the Missouri game were Troy and Texas A&M (cakewalks basically). So they beat Missouri and all of a sudden they're top 10 material after playing....nobody? I need to see something else before they're all of a sudden a top 10 team.

I'm not going to jump a team drastically just for having a big win without any other evidence to build a case. If that were the case I would have at least ranked my Beavers after upsetting the #1 team in the country.

But Okie St. did play somebody, they played Mizzou and beat them and they're undefeated. You have Utah ranked ahead of Okie St.....who have they played? Can't say the same for the Beavs, yeah they beat #1 but they're also 3-3, really I think the Beavs are A LOT better than what their record shows.

Oklahoma State may have only one win against a ranked team and a bunch of cupcake wins but they have looked awesome all year, and in my opinion they are one of the better teams in the country right now. I could be wrong about them but I just can't see leaving them out of the top 10 right now.

It's all subjective though and different people rank different. Some people go by wins and losses and who's played who, while others rank based on who they feel are the better teams...and some do a combo of the 2. Nobody's right and nobody's wrong, it's all a matter of opinion really.

You really know how to kill a good debate, Met. Back to Sandrock, I'm surprised you'd make that argument based on who the teams you have in front of them have lossed to, coupled with who those teams have beaten. It seems like your singling out Okie St.

[Metroid]

Sorry man.