Texas Alabama Penn State Oklahoma Oklahoma State USC Florida Georgia Texas Tech Ohio State Utah Boise State LSU TCU South Florida Pittsburgh Missouri Ball State Tulsa Georgia Tech Kansas Boston College Florida State Minnesota Northwestern
Hskpwr13
01. Texas 02. Alabama 03. Oklahoma St 04. Oklahoma 05. Penn St 06. Utah 07. USC 08. Ohio State 09. Georgia 10. Florida 11. Boise St 12. Texas Tech 13. Pittsburgh 14. South Florida 15. TCU 16. Georgia Tech 17. Boston College 18. Ball State 19. Tulsa 20. Minnesota 21. Northwestern 22. LSU 23. Brigham Young 24. Virginia Tech 25. Mizzou 26. Kansas 27. Florida State 28.Cincinnati 29. Michigan St 30. North Carolina
Knapplc
1 Texas 2 Alabama 3 Penn State 4 Oklahoma 5 USC 6 Texas Tech 7 Florida 8 Oklahoma State 9 Georgia 10 Ohio State 11 LSU 12 Utah 13 Boise State 14 South Florida 15 TCU 16 Pittsburgh 17 Tulsa 18 Missouri 19 Kansas 20 BYU 21 Minnesota 22 Ball State 23 Georgia Tech 24 Florida State 25 Northwestern 26 Boston College 27 Virginia Tech 28 Oregon 29 North Carolina 30 Vanderbilt
Vaderfin
1 Texas 2 Alabama 3 Penn State 4 Oklahoma 5 Texas Tech 6 Oklahoma State 7 USC 8 Florida 9 Georgia 10 Ohio State 11 Utah 12 Boise State 13 LSU 14 TCU 15 South Florida 16 Georgia Tech 17 Tulsa 18 Ball State 19 Northwestern 20 Pitt 21 Missouri 22 BYU 23 Florida State 24 Minnesota 25 Kansas 26 Boston College 27 Virginia Tech 28 Vanderbilt 29 Michigan State 30 North Carolina
BB24
1-Texas 2-Alabama 3-Penn State 4-USC 5-Oklahoma 6-Florida 7-Oklahoma State 8-Georgia 9-LSU 10-Texas Tech 11-Ohio State 12-Boise State 13-TCU 14-Missouri 15-Utah 16-Pittsburgh 17-South Florida 18-Kansas 19-Tulsa 20-Georgia Tech 21-Ball State 22-Florida State 23-BYU 24-Boston College 25-Northwestern 26-Vanderbilt 27-Michigan State 28-Minnesota 29-Maryland 30-Kentucky
JayDay
Texas Alabama Penn State Oklahoma Florida Georgia USC Ohio State Oklahoma State Utah Boise State Texas Tech TCU LSU Missouri South Florida Kansas Georgia Tech Pittsburgh Tulsa Boston College Minnesota Florida State Ball State Oregon Northwestern Vanderbilt Michigan State North Carolina Iowa
AFF
1. Texas 2. Penn St. 3. Alabama 4. Oklahoma St. 5. Texas Tech 6. Oklahoma 7. Georgia 8. Florida 9. USC 10. LSU 11. Ohio St. 12. Utah 13. Florida St. 14. Ball St. 15. Boise St. 16. Pittsburgh 17. TCU 18. Kansas 19. Michigan St. 20. Missouri 21. South Florida 22. Maryland 23. BYU 24. Boston College 25. Cincinnati 26. Minnesota 27. Arizona 28. Northwestern 29. Georgia Tech 30. Virginia Tech
Deeray
Texas Alabama Penn State Oklahoma Florida Oklahoma State USC Georgia Texas Tech LSU Ohio State Utah Boise State Pittsburgh South Florida Tulsa TCU Georgia Tech Boston College Ball State Minnesota Missouri Northwestern Cincinatti Brigham Young Florida State Virginia Tech Kansas Vanderbilt Oregon
Pretty simple - I think they are better than Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma State, Georgia, etc., but I'm not going to say they're a "lock" at #5, either. The reality of today's college football landscape is that every team in the top 25 could really beat every other team. There's probably a pretty decent argument to be made to rank USC #10 and to rank them #5.
I've only got them ranked a spot or two ahead of most everybody else, so I don't think that's too far out of whack. If I had them at #1-3, then I think the argument begins to get shaky, but I'm comfortable where I have them. And I wouldn't argue with your rankings either, AFF. I think it's becoming a real crapshoot these days.
A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Hey, BB and Knapp, can you guys both explain why you have USC ranked so high?
Pretty much in line with what Knapp said, I feel they're the 4th best team in the country. They got caught napping against Oregon State, but I would take my chances with USC against nearly everyone else in the country if the game's played at a neutral site. That 4-7 quartet I have though is pretty interchangeable, as I don't feel one of those teams really stands above the rest.
A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Hey, BB and Knapp, can you guys both explain why you have USC ranked so high?
Pretty much in line with what Knapp said, I feel they're the 4th best team in the country. They got caught napping against Oregon State, but I would take my chances with USC against nearly everyone else in the country if the game's played at a neutral site. That 4-7 quartet I have though is pretty interchangeable, as I don't feel one of those teams really stands above the rest.
Yep. Nobody really stands out all that much so far. Not three weeks ago I called Texas a "paper tiger," and here I have them #1 now. Everyone is vulnerable these days, and not one team in these rankings should ever be considered a "lock" at their rank.
Well, I guess I should rephrase my questioning then. If Texas Tech, USC, and Penn St. all win out and Texas and Alabama don't, who would you put in the National Championship if it were up to you? Because as of now, you both have USC ahead of Texas Tech, yet both winning out would result in a 1 loss Pac 10 team getting in ahead of an undefeated Big 12 team.
Impossible question to answer because so much can change between now and then and I will have a different feel at that time for who I feel the best two teams are then I do now, not to mention all the hypotheticals included. But, to answer the Texas Tech question, I would put them in because that would mean they strung together 4 straight wins against Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma plus a win in the Big 12 title game. I couldn't argue with that. I am lower on them than some because of their cake schedule so far with really only one decent opponent (Nebraska).
Flesh, I don't see my rankings as all that static. If USC earns their spot at the end of the season, so be it, but if they play a weaker schedule than, say, Oklahoma State, and both win out, I have zero problem bumping OSU up over USC at that time.
If you've looked at my rankings all year, I've jumped teams over other teams several times, and I've dropped different teams less than others after losses. As stricken by parity as we are, to my mode of thinking we're still in a feeling-out phase of the season. We really don't know all that much about what we're seeing from a lot of teams.
Flesh, after reading your comments in the game talk thread, I have serious questions about your ability to question MY rankings. If you didn't grasp that TT over KU wasn't an upset, despite what some Vegas oddsmaker says, I think you have a lot to learn about college football.
knapplc wrote:Flesh, after reading your comments in the game talk thread, I have serious questions about your ability to question MY rankings. If you didn't grasp that TT over KU wasn't an upset, despite what some Vegas oddsmaker says, I think you have a lot to learn about college football.
A couple things Knapp:
1) I picked Tech to win that game with a lot of confidence points. I was just trying to point out that Tech should get credit for what they did. I also said that it was technically an upset. No matter how bad you think Kansas may be, I was right about that. It was technically an upset.
2) I wasn't trying to question your ability to rank or the validity of your rankings. I was trying to understand why you put USC up that high because I was genuinely interested. I apologize if I came across as being critical of you, but that really wasn't my intent.
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by deerayfan072 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:59 pm 
