Who do you like better LenDale or CJohnson?

[Azrael]

I've got both of these guys on my team as I'm sure many people do. My problem is choosing who to start week to week. I was even considering trading one in a package for another full time back so I wouldn't have to choose who to play. It's not often like last week and this week that it's a good idea to play both in your lineup.

I know Johnson will typically get the edge in carries and likely out gain LenDale 2 to 1, but cheap TDs make up for lost yardage in a hurry. White has already scored 8 times in 6 games and likely would have been 9 if not for a technical difficulty (from what I've read) when Tenn was at the 1 against Minn. So I'm not certain I like Chris Johnson better just because he's more versatile.

I kinda like LenDale just because of so many of those cheap 6 pointers. And it's not likely to stop with the lenient schedule they have going forward. Thoughts?

[WaCougMBS]

I think Johnson is going to get a lot of love on this question, and rightfully so, but if you have a non-PPR league I think it's really a tossup. I like LenDale's TD vulturing ability as well, and the fact that Johnson won't get many carries in close and can't score from 10+ yards out on a weekly basis, I'd almost be inclined to keep White. Plus, I think you can get more solid value for Johnson, as he is the bandwagon name people will want to jump on.

Hope this helps

[LS2throwed]

I think it depends on who you prefer, because it's hard to tell who will do what week to week; I really love Lendale raking in a TD each week it seems, and CJ's yardage outputs are always high...In PPR leagues I would rather have CJ, Standard I would want Lendale, but the Titans are committed to running so you can't argue with either guy, I'd play both in good matchups anyway.

[Cowboys 4 life]

I like Chris Johnson better. I have Johnson in one league and Lendale in another. I like Lendale for the cheap TD's and consistency. I like Johnson for his gamebreaking ability. Can take it to the house from anywhere. I think Johnson ends the year with more points. Johnson will have more ups and downs while Lendale will typically be a more consistent play.

Like em both but favor Johnson.

[moochman]

In a non PPR leagues I think I'd rather have LeWhale. There is always the possibility of weather getting ugly and plow horses like LeWhale aren't affected as much as CJ4.24.

[Kensat30]

Reminds me a lot of the Julius Jones/Marion Barber situation. Except in this case the "Julius" is the talent and the "Barber" is the average player.

I favor Chris Johnson out of the two. Go with the guy getting the carries. Tennessee is good and all, but you can't count on them getting into the 5 yard line every week and giving Lendale 2 or 3 chances to score. What you can count on is them giving Chris Johnson 15-20+ touches a week and him getting you double digit points more often than not.

You want the guy averaging 50 yards and 1.3 TD a game for the rest of the season?
You want the guy averaging 100 yards and .7 TD a game for the rest of the season?

Lendale is on pace for 856 yards and 21 TDs.
Chris Johnson is on pace for 1659 yards and 11 TDs.

For me it's not that hard of a choice. There really aren't that many RBs who go for 800/21 in the season in the NFL history books. But there are PLENTY of 1600/11 RBs and they are usually end up in the fantasy top5 or top6.

[The Great Gambini]

I had CJ24 and LenDale but traded White in a package for Addai. Wish I would have held onto him for a week to sell him after his 3TD performance, but the fact is he hasn't been in my lineup since week one and my plan since then had been to trade him. He'll get his scores, sure, but I really love CJ's ability to break out every single game -- though that point looks weak considering White's huge game...though those won't happen all the time. Johnson did score on a 6 yard run two weeks ago or so, and don't underestimate to break the big one.

Back to your original post, Azreal, I'd try to unload one of them after this week, as I'd think they should both perform well against the Bungles. See who you can get more for if you can't make up your mind based on their own merits, I guess.

[Azrael]

Reminds me a lot of the Julius Jones/Marion Barber situation. Except in this case the "Julius" is the talent and the "Barber" is the average player.

I favor Chris Johnson out of the two. Go with the guy getting the carries. Tennessee is good and all, but you can't count on them getting into the 5 yard line every week and giving Lendale 2 or 3 chances to score. What you can count on is them giving Chris Johnson 15-20+ touches a week and him getting you double digit points more often than not.

You want the guy averaging 50 yards and 1.3 TD a game for the rest of the season?
You want the guy averaging 100 yards and .7 TD a game for the rest of the season?

Lendale is on pace for 856 yards and 21 TDs.
Chris Johnson is on pace for 1659 yards and 11 TDs.

For me it's not that hard of a choice. There really aren't that many RBs who go for 800/21 in the season in the NFL history books. But there are PLENTY of 1600/11 RBs and they are usually end up in the fantasy top5 or top6.

Ok, my ? to the area bolded is why not? Barber made a killing off stealing TDs (although he did catch alot more passes) to the tune of 15 or 16 total. It's not like White scored 3 or 4 close range TDs in 1 game and that's skewing his projection. He's score a TD from the 1 or 2 yard line in each game but Baltimore. I believe your extrapolations are actually slightly out of whack due to Johnson getting a 1 yard TD against Minnesota when White came out of the game for an equipment issue. Actually the play before White was in and moved the ball from the 2 to the 1. So it's not like they had Johnson in that package to begin with either. This likely would have been his 9th score. 6 of his 8TDs have come from 2 yards or less. 1 was a 6 yarder and 1 was that 80 yard marathon.

If we give that TD to White (again I know we can't give and take away stats from players but to extrapolate that TD in Johnsons favor is not correct), then the projections go from 21/11 to 24/8. I see Johnson as actually scoring 7-9 total TDs and White pushing 20. But anyway, I like the input.

[spodog]

I like C Johnson a lot better. He is the fastest RB in the NFL, and LenWhale may be one of the slowest. If you look closely at TEN games, C Johnson is the guy who has the ball when the game is in doubt. LenWhale vultures a fair # of TD's, but look for C Johnson to be the guy who busts the 60 yard runs and who the Titans turn to as the weather gets colder and their schedule gets hotter.

[Kensat30]

Reminds me a lot of the Julius Jones/Marion Barber situation. Except in this case the "Julius" is the talent and the "Barber" is the average player.

I favor Chris Johnson out of the two. Go with the guy getting the carries. Tennessee is good and all, but you can't count on them getting into the 5 yard line every week and giving Lendale 2 or 3 chances to score. What you can count on is them giving Chris Johnson 15-20+ touches a week and him getting you double digit points more often than not.

You want the guy averaging 50 yards and 1.3 TD a game for the rest of the season?
You want the guy averaging 100 yards and .7 TD a game for the rest of the season?

Lendale is on pace for 856 yards and 21 TDs.
Chris Johnson is on pace for 1659 yards and 11 TDs.

For me it's not that hard of a choice. There really aren't that many RBs who go for 800/21 in the season in the NFL history books. But there are PLENTY of 1600/11 RBs and they are usually end up in the fantasy top5 or top6.

Ok, my ? to the area bolded is why not? Barber made a killing off stealing TDs (although he did catch alot more passes) to the tune of 15 or 16 total. It's not like White scored 3 or 4 close range TDs in 1 game and that's skewing his projection. He's score a TD from the 1 or 2 yard line in each game but Baltimore. I believe your extrapolations are actually slightly out of whack due to Johnson getting a 1 yard TD against Minnesota when White came out of the game for an equipment issue. Actually the play before White was in and moved the ball from the 2 to the 1. So it's not like they had Johnson in that package to begin with either. This likely would have been his 9th score. 6 of his 8TDs have come from 2 yards or less. 1 was a 6 yarder and 1 was that 80 yard marathon.

If we give that TD to White (again I know we can't give and take away stats from players but to extrapolate that TD in Johnsons favor is not correct), then the projections go from 21/11 to 24/8. I see Johnson as actually scoring 7-9 total TDs and White pushing 20. But anyway, I like the input.

How many TDs did Barber have playing on a Romo/TO offense? Dallas is in a shootout basically every single game. I think it's just impossibly tough to become a top end RB with less than 50% of the carries for your team unless you are receiving and insane amount of receptions. And even then, I think the wild up and down swings when you get zero TD games versus 2 or 3 TD games and only 50 yards can kill you in a head to head league.

Tennessee is led by Kerry Collins and the top WR is Justin Gage. And Justin Gage is hurt right now. The defense is playing out of this world, but all it takes is one Albert Haynesworth injury and I think those consistent 1 yard TDs dry up real fast.

Lendale White is a guy that is seeing like 12 carries a game right now. He HAS to score a TD to have any value. Up to this point he has been getting those TDs, but we have also seen Chris Johnson come in and score from close up both in the receiving and running game. I believe in addition to the 1 yard TD you mention, Johnson also has like a 4 yard reception and a 7 yard run. White is getting the majority of the goalline carries, but not all of them. And 12 TDS from RBs through 6 games should like a major anomaly to me.

Maybe this is a new day in the NFL that goes back to the old 100% RBBC NFL where guys can run in 15 scores and stay below 1000 yards, but that is not the NFL that I am used to. Lendale White can continue to be a good fantasy player, but I think the odds point to Chris Johnson being the guy who will consistently help your fantasy team. In a TD only league, Lendale White is money. But in a standard head to head league, those 3-5 point weeks will help your team to a loss.