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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:48 pm

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Lets look at a common opponent:

Utah beat Michigan by 2. PSU beat Michigan by 29.

Also, if you are going to argue that the big 10 is down, which is a very valid argument, lets look at what Penn St. has done out of conference.

Against Oregon St.: Penn St. wins by 31
Against Syracuse: Penn St. wins by 42


Syracuse? Really? They should beat them by that, they are possibly the worst team in Div I football.

Great they beat one team by a lot that is good.
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:10 pm

Here is the thing --

If PSU goes undefeated they will be in the NC game, so if you are a PSU fan then root for them to win out. They will be there if they win out so don't get upset by our informal cafe poll because it has no bearing on their real season. If they get there and win, then I will eat my words. IMO, if they make it to the NC game against any one of the following: Texas Tech, OK, Tex, Florida, Bama, they will get smoked. Those are all better teams IMO.
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby Free Bagel » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:13 pm

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Also, look at what Penn St. has done more closely. They've been blowing big 10 teams out. If they had been winning by a field goal or a touchdown each game, that's one thing, but with the exception of the Ohio St. game, they've been winning comfortably.


And that is different from the last two years how?

Ohio State 2006 against Big 10 teams:
28-6
38-17
38-7
44-3
44-0
17-10
54-10
42-39

Ohio State 2007:
58-7
30-7
23-7
24-17
37-17
38-17
21-28
14-3

Penn State 2008:
38-24
20-6
48-7
46-17
13-6

Average margin of victory for OSU in 2006: 26
Average margin of victory for OSU in 2007: 21
Average margin of victory for PSU in 2008: 21
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:32 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Lets look at a common opponent:

Utah beat Michigan by 2. PSU beat Michigan by 29.

Also, if you are going to argue that the big 10 is down, which is a very valid argument, lets look at what Penn St. has done out of conference.

Against Oregon St.: Penn St. wins by 31
Against Syracuse: Penn St. wins by 42


Syracuse? Really? They should beat them by that, they are possibly the worst team in Div I football.

Great they beat one team by a lot that is good.


It's not one team that they beat by a lot. They've beaten everyone other than OSU by a lot.
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:53 pm

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:Lets look at a common opponent:

Utah beat Michigan by 2. PSU beat Michigan by 29.

Also, if you are going to argue that the big 10 is down, which is a very valid argument, lets look at what Penn St. has done out of conference.

Against Oregon St.: Penn St. wins by 31
Against Syracuse: Penn St. wins by 42


Syracuse? Really? They should beat them by that, they are possibly the worst team in Div I football.

Great they beat one team by a lot that is good.


It's not one team that they beat by a lot. They've beaten everyone other than OSU by a lot.


Again, with the 53rd ranked SOS. Also, see Bagels above post
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby HskrPwr13 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:04 pm

Well, heres the coaches top10:
1. Alabama (40) 9-0 1498 2
2. Penn State (14) 9-0 1437 3
3. Texas Tech (6) 9-0 1409 5
4. Oklahoma (1) 8-1 1290 4
5. Florida 7-1 1268 7
6. USC 7-1 1232 6
7. Texas 8-1 1227 1
8. Oklahoma State 8-1 1066 10
9. Utah 9-0 1018 9
10. Boise State 8-0 958 11


2 big issues from my perspective:
1) Penn State #2 with 14 first place votes? They really believe Penn State has had a better season so far than that of Texas Tech?
2) Texas #7? They've beaten 2 top 10 teams according to their own rankings, plus Missouri #13, and lost to the #3 team, yet they deserve to not only be behind USC and FLA, but also one of the teams they beat?
Idiots!
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby ShoelessJoe » Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:54 pm

HskrPwr13 wrote:Well, heres the coaches top10:
1. Alabama (40) 9-0 1498 2
2. Penn State (14) 9-0 1437 3
3. Texas Tech (6) 9-0 1409 5
4. Oklahoma (1) 8-1 1290 4
5. Florida 7-1 1268 7
6. USC 7-1 1232 6
7. Texas 8-1 1227 1
8. Oklahoma State 8-1 1066 10
9. Utah 9-0 1018 9
10. Boise State 8-0 958 11


2 big issues from my perspective:
1) Penn State #2 with 14 first place votes? They really believe Penn State has had a better season so far than that of Texas Tech?
2) Texas #7? They've beaten 2 top 10 teams according to their own rankings, plus Missouri #13, and lost to the #3 team, yet they deserve to not only be behind USC and FLA, but also one of the teams they beat?
Idiots!


They're coaches. Their votes shouldn't even count. I guarantee that I watched more football yesterday than every coach who's team didn't have a bye. And I was at the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party.

I agree with Texas. They lost at the end of the game, with 0:01, on the road to a top 5 team. USC lost on the road also but to a top 50 team. Texas has beaten 2 top 10 teams. USC hasn't beaten 2 top 25 teams! Florida on the other hand, deserves to be there. :-)

New BCS:
1. Alabama .974
2. Texas Tech .937
3. Penn St .928
4. Texas .853
5. Florida .826
6. Oklahoma .822
7. USC . 755
8. Utah .697
9. Oklahoma St .666
10. Boise St .652

Florida, Texas and Oklahoma are WAY ahead of USC. I don't see any way that USC could catch any of those teams unless they lose. The BCS looks pretty good to me, people always say that the computer polls work better as they get more data.
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:01 pm

HskrPwr13 wrote:Well, heres the coaches top10:
1. Alabama (40) 9-0 1498 2
2. Penn State (14) 9-0 1437 3
3. Texas Tech (6) 9-0 1409 5
4. Oklahoma (1) 8-1 1290 4
5. Florida 7-1 1268 7
6. USC 7-1 1232 6
7. Texas 8-1 1227 1
8. Oklahoma State 8-1 1066 10
9. Utah 9-0 1018 9
10. Boise State 8-0 958 11


2 big issues from my perspective:
1) Penn State #2 with 14 first place votes? They really believe Penn State has had a better season so far than that of Texas Tech?
2) Texas #7? They've beaten 2 top 10 teams according to their own rankings, plus Missouri #13, and lost to the #3 team, yet they deserve to not only be behind USC and FLA, but also one of the teams they beat?
Idiots!


PSU #2 = JoePa coaches them and the coaches want him in the BCS NC for his last season.
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby HskrPwr13 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:39 pm

ShoelessJoe wrote:
HskrPwr13 wrote:Well, heres the coaches top10:
1. Alabama (40) 9-0 1498 2
2. Penn State (14) 9-0 1437 3
3. Texas Tech (6) 9-0 1409 5
4. Oklahoma (1) 8-1 1290 4
5. Florida 7-1 1268 7
6. USC 7-1 1232 6
7. Texas 8-1 1227 1
8. Oklahoma State 8-1 1066 10
9. Utah 9-0 1018 9
10. Boise State 8-0 958 11


2 big issues from my perspective:
1) Penn State #2 with 14 first place votes? They really believe Penn State has had a better season so far than that of Texas Tech?
2) Texas #7? They've beaten 2 top 10 teams according to their own rankings, plus Missouri #13, and lost to the #3 team, yet they deserve to not only be behind USC and FLA, but also one of the teams they beat?
Idiots!


They're coaches. Their votes shouldn't even count. I guarantee that I watched more football yesterday than every coach who's team didn't have a bye. And I was at the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party.

I agree with Texas. They lost at the end of the game, with 0:01, on the road to a top 5 team. USC lost on the road also but to a top 50 team. Texas has beaten 2 top 10 teams. USC hasn't beaten 2 top 25 teams! Florida on the other hand, deserves to be there. :-)

New BCS:
1. Alabama .974
2. Texas Tech .937
3. Penn St .928
4. Texas .853
5. Florida .826
6. Oklahoma .822
7. USC . 755
8. Utah .697
9. Oklahoma St .666
10. Boise St .652

Florida, Texas and Oklahoma are WAY ahead of USC. I don't see any way that USC could catch any of those teams unless they lose. The BCS looks pretty good to me, people always say that the computer polls work better as they get more data.


Well, thank God for the Harris Poll voters! They have to be main reason the ship is righted since the CPUs are given the lowest ability to affect the rankings of the 3 components.
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Re: Week 10 Games Talk

Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:44 pm

Texas is a good team and I actually am going to have them higher than I thought. They deserve to be in front of teams like USC
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