Week 10 Cafe Poll and Discussion

[deerayfan072]

Top 25

Texas
Alabama
Penn State
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Florida
Georgia
USC
Oklahoma State
Utah
Boise State
TCU
Ohio State
Florida State
Missouri
Ball State
Tulsa
LSU
Minnesota
Michigan State
Brigham Young
North Carolina
Maryland
Oregon
South Florida

BlueBandit24

1-Texas
2-Alabama
3-Penn State
4-Florida
5-Georgia
6-USC
7-Oklahoma
8-Texas Tech
9-Oklahoma State
10-Boise State
11-TCU
12-Utah
13-Missouri
14-LSU
15-Ohio State
16-Florida State
17-Ball State
18-Tulsa
19-Michigan State
20-Oregon
21-Minnesota
22-BYU
23-Maryland
24-North Carolina
25-West Virginia
26-California
27-South Florida
28-Arizona
29-Kansas
30-Virginia

Knapplc

1 Texas
2 Alabama
3 Penn State
4 Oklahoma
5 Texas Tech
6 Florida
7 Georgia
8 USC
9 Oklahoma State
10 Utah
11 Boise State
12 Ohio State
13 TCU
14 Missouri
15 LSU
16 Tulsa
17 BYU
18 Minnesota
19 Florida State
20 Ball State
21 North Carolina
22 South Florida
23 Michigan State
24 Oregon
25 Maryland
26 West Virginia
27 Connecticut
28 California
29 Fresno State
30 Kansas

HskrPwr13

01. Texas
02. Alabama
03. Penn St
04. Texas Tech
05. Oklahoma
06. Oklahoma St
07. Georgia
08. Utah
09. Boise St
10. USC
11. Florida
12. TCU
13. Ball St
14. Tulsa
15. Florida St
16. Ohio St
17. Minnesota
18. BYU
19. Georgia Tech
20. North Carolina
21. Boston College
22. MIssouri
23. Maryland
24. California
25. Michigan St
26. Connecticut
27. Louisville
28. Pittsburgh
29. South Florida
30. LSU

Vaderfin

1 Texas
2 Alabama
3 Penn State
4 Oklahoma
5 Texas Tech
6 USC
7 Florida
8 Georgia
9 Oklahoma State
10 Utah
11 Boise State
12 TCU
13 Ohio State
14 Florida State
15 Ball State
16 Tulsa
17 Minnesota
18 Missouri
19 Michigan State
20 BYU
21 North Carolina
22 South Florida
23 LSU
24 Oregon
25 Maryland
26 UConn
27 West Virginia
28 California
29 Virginia
30 Kansas

AFF

1. Texas
2. Penn St.
3. Alabama
4. Texas Tech
5. Oklahoma St.
6. Oklahoma
7. Georgia
8. Florida
9. USC
10. Utah
11. Florida St.
12. Ohio St.
13. Missouri
14. Ball St.
15. LSU
16. Boise St.
17. TCU
18. Michigan St.
19. Maryland
20. Tulsa
21. Minnesota
22. Arizona
23. BYU
24. UNC
25. Connecticut
26. Louisville
27. West Virginia
28. California
29. Virginia
30. Pittsburgh

Mugrila

Alabama
Texas
Penn State
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
USC
Georgia
Florida
Oklahoma State
Utah
Boise State
Ohio State
Missouri
TCU
LSU
Florida State
BYU
Tulsa
Ball State
Michigan State
Minnesota
North Carolina
USF
Maryland
Oregon
Georgia Tech
Kansas
West Virginia
California
South Carolina

Bagel

1 Texas
2 Alabama
3 Penn State
4 Oklahoma
5 Florida
6 Georgia
7 Texas Tech
8 Oklahoma State
9 USC
10 Missouri
11 Florida State
12 LSU
13 Utah
14 Boise State
15 TCU
16 UNC
17 Minnesota
18 Oregon
19 Michigan State
20 South Florida
21 Ohio State
22 BYU
23 Maryland
24 West Virginia
25 Tulsa
26 Ball State
27 Cal
28 Virginia Tech
29 Georgia Tech
30 Uconn

Deeray

Texas
Alabama
Penn State
Florida
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Georgia
USC
Oklahoma State
Utah
TCU
Boise State
Ball State
Tulsa
Ohio State
Minnesota
Michigan State
Florida State
LSU
North Carolina
Oregon
Maryland
Missouri
Brigham Young
West Virginia
Georgia Tech
California
South Florida
Cincinatti

[A Fleshner Fantasy]

I just wanted to say, and I'm sure many others feel like this as well, that I really appreciate you putting your time into compiling all these rankings and making the poll. And I just want to make sure that you realize, deeray, that your efforts really are appreciated, as these polls spark major conversation and really help keep this forum alive. Thanks a lot deeray

[HskrPwr13]

I just wanted to say, and I'm sure none of you will agree with me, that LSU is VASTLY overrated in everyone's poll except mine.

[Free Bagel]

Ok, seriously...

Ball State?

Are you guys friggin' kidding me?

[Metroid]

Neither of the 2 posters above Bagel have Oregon in their rankings....methinks that will change after they beat Cal Saturday.

[ShoelessJoe]

When Oklahoma played TCU (SOS: 99) earlier this season, did anyone notice? Did anyone hype the game? Did anyone think it would even be competitive? Was it competitive?

Now TCU is pretty high in most people's polls, I think they're 17 at the lowest. Are there that few good teams or are we forgetting that they were throttled by Oklahoma? 35-10. Just because they beat a BYU team (SOS:120) that had played nobody yet and was 100% unproven means they're a top 12 team as some people had them?

TCU's combined opponents' records to this point: 30-44

Say what you will about TCU, but any of the top 25 teams would give up 7 PPG when they get to play New Mexico, Stephen F Austin, Wyoming and San Diego St. That sounds like the patsies that Florida beats up every year to open the season. Oh, wait, that's the gauntlet that is TCU's schedule. If anybody could even tell me 2 of the 4 mascots of the above teams I'd be impressed...

[Metroid]

When Oklahoma played TCU (SOS: 99) earlier this season, did anyone notice? Did anyone hype the game? Did anyone think it would even be competitive? Was it competitive?

Now TCU is pretty high in most people's polls, I think they're 17 at the lowest. Are there that few good teams or are we forgetting that they were throttled by Oklahoma? 35-10. Just because they beat a BYU team (SOS:120) that had played nobody yet and was 100% unproven means they're a top 12 team as some people had them?

TCU's combined opponents' records to this point: 30-44

Say what you will about TCU, but any of the top 25 teams would give up 7 PPG when they get to play New Mexico, Stephen F Austin, Wyoming and San Diego St. That sounds like the patsies that Florida beats up every year to open the season. Oh, wait, that's the gauntlet that is TCU's schedule. If anybody could even tell me 2 of the 4 mascots of the above teams I'd be impressed...

Prepare to be impressed. San Diego St. is the Aztecs and new Mexico are the Lobos.....for good measure Wyoming is the Cowboys.

I have no idea about Stephen F Austin....isn't he a wrestler? Stone Cold Steve Austin is their mascot right?

[HskrPwr13]

When Oklahoma played TCU (SOS: 99) earlier this season, did anyone notice? Did anyone hype the game? Did anyone think it would even be competitive? Was it competitive?

Now TCU is pretty high in most people's polls, I think they're 17 at the lowest. Are there that few good teams or are we forgetting that they were throttled by Oklahoma? 35-10. Just because they beat a BYU team (SOS:120) that had played nobody yet and was 100% unproven means they're a top 12 team as some people had them?

TCU's combined opponents' records to this point: 30-44

Say what you will about TCU, but any of the top 25 teams would give up 7 PPG when they get to play New Mexico, Stephen F Austin, Wyoming and San Diego St. That sounds like the patsies that Florida beats up every year to open the season. Oh, wait, that's the gauntlet that is TCU's schedule. If anybody could even tell me 2 of the 4 mascots of the above teams I'd be impressed...

Thats where results end up coming into play. Replace TCU with Penn St and BYU with Ohio St, and you've roughly got the same argument. Ohio St has been less than impressive this year. With 2 losses, one pretty bad, and only 1 quality win, MInnesota, they're still ranked "high", and Penn St is certainly benefiting from OSU's high ranking.

[ShoelessJoe]

Thats where results end up coming into play. Replace TCU with Penn St and BYU with Ohio St, and you've roughly got the same argument. Ohio St has been less than impressive this year. With 2 losses, one pretty bad, and only 1 quality win, MInnesota, they're still ranked "high", and Penn St is certainly benefiting from OSU's high ranking.

Each team's best wins:
Ohio St has beaten Minnesota (7-1), Michigan St (7-2), Troy (5-2) and Wisconsin (4-4)
Penn St has beaten Ohio St (7-2), Oregon St (4-3), Wisconsin and Illinois (4-4)

TCU has beaten BYU (7-1), Stanford (4-4), Colorado St (4-4), and New Mexico (4-5)
BYU has beaten New Mexico, UNLV (3-5) , UCLA (3-5), and Wyoming (2-6)

I know records are not the one all end all but when you consider that Ohio St and Penn St's big wins are coming against BCS opponents who have better records than the non-BCS opponents that BYU and TCU are playing that has to mean something. BYU hasn't beaten a team over .500 all year. TCU's only victory over a .500+ team was over BYU.

Those are the best wins for each of the teams according to one of the computer polls. Which wins are more impressive in your opinion?

[BlueBandit24]

After the Top-9 in my rankings I could have pretty much tossed a dart at team names to see where I was going to rank them as nobody really sticks out. But in the interest of having a full poll I decided not to rank everyone else tied for 10th. Once you get past the elite it is awful hard to differentiate.