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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:05 pm

ShoelessJoe wrote:Want to compare conferences? check this out:

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

It has all of each conference's out of conference games sorted in a matrix and explained in more detail.


Cool find man ;-D
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby knapplc » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:11 pm

ShoelessJoe wrote:Want to compare conferences? check this out:

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

It has all of each conference's out of conference games sorted in a matrix and explained in more detail.


I'm not really sure what valuable thing this matrix is showing us, though. Of the SEC's & Big XII's OOC losses, all but one are losses by teams in the bottom half of their conference division, with Kansas' loss to USF being the lone exception. Most losses by most teams from either conference were reasonably close affairs, with less than half being "blowouts."

As expected, the top teams from both conferences won their OOC games.
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby deerayfan072 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:19 pm

knapplc wrote:
ShoelessJoe wrote:Want to compare conferences? check this out:

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

It has all of each conference's out of conference games sorted in a matrix and explained in more detail.


I'm not really sure what valuable thing this matrix is showing us, though. Of the SEC's & Big XII's OOC losses, all but one are losses by teams in the bottom half of their conference division, with Kansas' loss to USF being the lone exception. Most losses by most teams from either conference were reasonably close affairs, with less than half being "blowouts."

As expected, the top teams from both conferences won their OOC games.


I wish the Big 12 South top 4 could play the top 4 from the SEC :-L That would be an awesome 8 team playoff :-L
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby knapplc » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:57 pm

Yes. Yes it would. ;-D

Of course, you mentioned the "P" word, so you have five BCS demerit points now and you have to go to the principal's office, but them's the breaks. :-b
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:11 pm

knapplc wrote:
ShoelessJoe wrote:Want to compare conferences? check this out:

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

It has all of each conference's out of conference games sorted in a matrix and explained in more detail.


I'm not really sure what valuable thing this matrix is showing us, though. Of the SEC's & Big XII's OOC losses, all but one are losses by teams in the bottom half of their conference division, with Kansas' loss to USF being the lone exception. Most losses by most teams from either conference were reasonably close affairs, with less than half being "blowouts."

As expected, the top teams from both conferences won their OOC games.


It just organizes it really well.
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby deerayfan072 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:08 pm

knapplc wrote:Yes. Yes it would. ;-D

Of course, you mentioned the "P" word, so you have five BCS demerit points now and you have to go to the principal's office, but them's the breaks. :-b


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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby knapplc » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:17 pm

A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:
knapplc wrote:I'm not really sure what valuable thing this matrix is showing us, though.
It just organizes it really well.

This is true, and for that it's quite handy. It also shows that the top teams in the top conferences don't lose much, but I guess we already knew that, right?
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby deerayfan072 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:24 pm

knapplc wrote:
A Fleshner Fantasy wrote:
knapplc wrote:I'm not really sure what valuable thing this matrix is showing us, though.
It just organizes it really well.

This is true, and for that it's quite handy. It also shows that the top teams in the top conferences don't lose much, but I guess we already knew that, right?


also shows the some MWC teams should be in the Pac 10 and then they can have a championship game :-D
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby knapplc » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:37 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:also shows the some MWC teams should be in the Pac 10 and then they can have a championship game :-D

Eh... I don't know. If they did that we'd have to start considering them a real conference, and I'm not so sure I'm ready to do that. :-D O:-)
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Re: 2008 BCS Poll Discussion

Postby ShoelessJoe » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:13 pm

I usually can't stand Ivan Maisel because he may love the Big 10 more than his wife but I did agree with some of his points in this week's 'I-Formation'

A reader suggested the two teams playing the best right now are Florida and USC. It's unfair, the reader said, that the two best teams would not get the opportunity to play for it all.

I happen to agree with this reader that the Gators and the Trojans are playing better than just about anybody else right now...

...

Back up a minute. Why aren't Florida and USC at the top right now? Each of them lost a game. Where did they lose it? In the polls? The computers? No, both of them lost on the field. Florida lost at home to an Ole Miss team that is 5-4. USC lost on the road to an Oregon State team that is 5-3. Didn't that prove something?


Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=iform0811

I agree. Everyone hears Pete Carroll saying he's in favor of a playoff. Bob Stoops said the same thing yesterday. And guess what? Both of those teams lost on the field.

I'd be interested to hear what Carroll or Stoops said when asked about a playoff next year if their team was in Texas Tech/Alabama's position...
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